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Subject: Re: [qubes-devel] Qubes internal network topology
From: Andrew <kyboren () riseup ! net>
Date: 2016-02-11 17:05:39
Message-ID: 56BCBF63.5000905 () riseup ! net
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Joanna Rutkowska:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 01:56:11PM +0000, Andrew wrote:
> > Marek Marczykowski-Górecki:
> > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 12:20:40PM +0100, Zrubi wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > >
> > > > I want to visualize the internal Qubes network topology.
> > > > Is there any better way to get the actual topology than parsing the
> > > > output of `qvm-ls -n`
> > >
> > > Unfortunately no, at least not yet. We'd love to have something like
> > > that in Qubes Manager in Qubes 4.0, but that's just a wishlist entry
> > > for now...
> > >
> > >
>
> > I've made my own hacky script for visualizing network and PCI
> > attachments. Maybe this will tide you over until there's something more
> > official?
>
> > It's not completely bug-free; there is a spacing issue for ProxyVMs, but
> > visually I think it looks just fine and haven't had much motivation to
> > fix it.
>
> > Pic with redactions attached.
>
> > Andrew
>
>
> Hate to break it to you, but you're not quarantining ME by assigning the ME host
> controller device to a VM, as seen on your screenshot. This device is a mere
> interface for the OS to talk to the ME, but ME is still free to do whatever DMA
> it wants. Sorry. I once believed this would work too... :/
>
> joanna.
>
Oh, I'm well aware of this. I think I even asked about this explicitly
on the list before (and you were probably the one to reply that it's
ineffective). It may indeed be Quixotic, but it can't hurt, right? ;)
Andrew
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