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List:       quanta-devel
Subject:    Re: [quanta-devel] Quanta4 project support progress
From:       "Peter Morgan" <pedromorgan () gmail ! com>
Date:       2007-06-26 21:17:35
Message-ID: e97636410706261417g6884874eg558b02520f5d7847 () mail ! gmail ! com
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To add to this debate there is one thing also on my mind.

My favourite ftp client Filezilla now rins on linux. A alos like the
portablility of the xml file in the site manager.

Here's an excerpt
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes" ?>
<FileZilla3>
    <Servers>
        <Server>
            <Host>quanta-dev.org</Host>
            <Port>21</Port>
            <Protocol>0</Protocol>
            <Type>0</Type>
            <Logontype>1</Logontype>
            <User>ftpuser</User>
            <Pass>secret</Pass>
            <TimezoneOffset>0</TimezoneOffset>
            <PasvMode>MODE_PASSIVE</PasvMode>
            <MaximumMultipleConnections>0</MaximumMultipleConnections>
            <EncodingType>Auto</EncodingType>
            <Comments></Comments>
            <LocalDir>/home/bof/public_html/project</LocalDir>
            <RemoteDir></RemoteDir>This Servers Label
        </Server>
    </Servers>
<FileZilla3>

Neat..

Now all I need to figure out is how to import that into Quanta, Thats why I
prefer xml because a little python script would do the trick, and a menu
option


Pete

On 26/06/07, Peter Morgan <pedromorgan@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 26/06/07, Andrew Lowe <andrew.lowe@manildra.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:31:02 Peter Morgan wrote:
> > > Hi there,recently subscribed to this list, and been looking at the
> > source
> > > as a Quanta user..
> > >
> > > For this thread I have one comment, if it helps..
> > >
> > >
> > > Now about the possibilities:
> > > 1) big file in toplevel directory: nice because everything is in one
> > > place. Not so nice as it doesn't follow the style of other languages,
> > thus
> > > it is a little bit harder to load (see my mail on the KDevelop list).
> > But
> > > this isn't a big issue.
> > > 2) one file/directory. Fits the KDevelop's style, but means hand
> > editing
> > > and copying only the project file(s) a little bit harder.
> > > <<
> > >
> > > Option 2) -  I dont like at all
> > >
> > > Option 1)  - is ok, as is at the moment...
> > >
> > > However I would like another option, storing the project file in
> > another
> > > directory eg ~quanta/
> > >
> > > Pete
> > >
> >
> > With Quanta there is a significant difference than KDevelop for
> > projects:
> > Quanta projects are generally published as source (HTML, PHP, etc)
> > whereas
> > KDevelop projects are generally compiled.
> > Most Quanta users would probably copy the whole project directory onto
> > their
> > webserver.  If we go for option 2, users would have difficulty removing
> > all
> > project files prior to publishing - unless we have a publish option...
> > Project files could potentially contain sensitive information (fish
> > user/passwords?, or include files not for display by the webserver.)
> >
> > I am sure many users currently publish the whole directory, but some
> > might
> > remove the project file, and other sensitive files, before
> > uploading.  If we
> > have many files, it would make it very hard for a user to manually
> > remove
> > files prior to publishing.
>
>
> That's part of the problem. In which case might it be an idea to make the
> project files .hidden ? THese can then be excluded from the project for
> upload
>
>
> Just my thoughts
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Lowe
> >     System Administrator & Programmer
> >         Information Technology
> >             Manildra Group
> >
> > Email:   andrew.lowe@manildra.com.au
> > Phone:   02 4423 8270
> > Mobile:  04 1323 8270
> > Fax:     02 4421 7760
> >
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> >
> >
>

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To add to this debate there is one thing also on my mind.<br><br>My favourite ftp \
client Filezilla now rins on linux. A alos like the portablility of the xml file in \
the site manager.<br><br>Here&#39;s an excerpt<br>&lt;?xml version=&quot; 1.0&quot; \
encoding=&quot;UTF-8&quot; standalone=&quot;yes&quot; \
?&gt;<br>&lt;FileZilla3&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
&lt;Servers&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
&lt;Server&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
&lt;Host&gt;<a href="http://quanta-dev.org">quanta-dev.org</a>&lt;/Host&gt; \
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
&lt;Port&gt;21&lt;/Port&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
&lt;Protocol&gt;0&lt;/Protocol&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
&lt;Type&gt;0&lt;/Type&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
&lt;Logontype&gt;1&lt;/Logontype&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
&lt;User&gt;ftpuser&lt;/User&gt; \
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
&lt;Pass&gt;secret&lt;/Pass&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
&lt;TimezoneOffset&gt;0&lt;/TimezoneOffset&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
&lt;PasvMode&gt;MODE_PASSIVE&lt;/PasvMode&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
&lt;MaximumMultipleConnections&gt;0&lt;/MaximumMultipleConnections&gt; \
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
&lt;EncodingType&gt;Auto&lt;/EncodingType&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
&lt;Comments&gt;&lt;/Comments&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
&lt;LocalDir&gt;/home/bof/public_html/project&lt;/LocalDir&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
&lt;RemoteDir&gt;&lt;/RemoteDir&gt;This Servers Label \
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;/Server&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
&lt;/Servers&gt;<br>&lt;FileZilla3&gt;<br><br>Neat.. <br><br>Now all I need to figure \
out is how to import that into Quanta, Thats why I prefer xml because a little python \
script would do the trick, and a menu option <br><br><br>Pete<br><br><div><span \
class="gmail_quote">On 26/06/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Peter Morgan</b> &lt;<a \
href="mailto:pedromorgan@gmail.com">pedromorgan@gmail.com</a>&gt; \
wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, \
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <br><br><div><div><span \
class="e" id="q_11368de4ef2483d5_1"><span class="gmail_quote">On 26/06/07, <b \
class="gmail_sendername">Andrew Lowe</b> &lt;<a \
href="mailto:andrew.lowe@manildra.com.au" target="_blank" onclick="return \
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> andrew.lowe@manildra.com.au</a>&gt; \
wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, \
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 \
20:31:02 Peter Morgan wrote:<br>&gt; Hi there,recently subscribed to this list, and \
been looking at the source<br>&gt; as a Quanta user..<br>&gt;<br>&gt; For this thread \
I have one comment, if it helps.. <br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Now about the \
possibilities:<br>&gt; 1) big file in toplevel directory: nice because everything is \
in one<br>&gt; place. Not so nice as it doesn&#39;t follow the style of other \
languages, thus<br>

&gt; it is a little bit harder to load (see my mail on the KDevelop list). \
But<br>&gt; this isn&#39;t a big issue.<br>&gt; 2) one file/directory. Fits the \
KDevelop&#39;s style, but means hand editing<br>&gt; and copying only the project \
file(s) a little bit harder. <br>&gt; &lt;&lt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Option 2) \
-&nbsp;&nbsp;I dont like at all<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Option 1)&nbsp;&nbsp;- is ok, as is \
at the moment...<br>&gt;<br>&gt; However I would like another option, storing the \
project file in another<br>&gt; directory eg ~quanta/ <br>&gt;<br>&gt; \
Pete<br>&gt;<br><br>With Quanta there is a significant difference than KDevelop for \
projects:<br>Quanta projects are generally published as source (HTML, PHP, etc) \
whereas<br>KDevelop projects are generally compiled. <br>Most Quanta users would \
probably copy the whole project directory onto their<br>webserver.&nbsp;&nbsp;If we \
go for option 2, users would have difficulty removing all<br>project files prior to \
publishing - unless we have a publish option... <br>Project files could potentially \
contain sensitive information (fish<br>user/passwords?, or include files not for \
display by the webserver.)<br><br>I am sure many users currently publish the whole \
directory, but some might <br>remove the project file, and other sensitive files, \
before uploading.&nbsp;&nbsp;If we<br>have many files, it would make it very hard for \
a user to manually remove<br>files prior to \
publishing.</blockquote></span></div><div><br> That&#39;s part of the problem. In \
which case might it be an idea to make the project files .hidden ? THese can then be \
excluded from the project for upload <br>&nbsp;</div><br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt \
0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><span class="q">Just my thoughts<br><br>--<br>Andrew \
Lowe<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;System Administrator &amp; Programmer \
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Information \
Technology<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Manildra \
Group<br><br>Email:&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="mailto:andrew.lowe@manildra.com.au" \
target="_blank" onclick="return \
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">andrew.lowe@manildra.com.au \
</a><br>Phone:&nbsp;&nbsp; 02 4423 8270<br>Mobile:&nbsp;&nbsp;04 1323 \
8270<br>Fax:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 02 4421 7760 <br><br></span><span \
class="q">_______________________________________________<br>quanta-devel mailing \
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 </a><br><br><br></span></blockquote></div><br>
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