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Subject: Re: [Quanta] Regressing to earlier versions.
From: Abner <abnerch () yahoo ! es>
Date: 2013-05-29 16:38:31
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Hi Martin, John and all:
El 29/05/13 11:33, john Culleton escribió:
> On Wed, 29 May 2013 16:26:09 +0200
> "Dr. Martin Senftleben" <linux@drmartinus.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just want to step in, because I am one of those users who are very
>> sad about Quanta's discontinuation.
>>
>> Am 29.05.2013 00:30, schrieb erkin tek:
>>> I like kate, give it a try.
>>>
>>> I used it to code php, html, js
>>
>> Such suggestions don't help much. Of course one can use quite a bunch
>> of editors in replacement of Quanta, but Quanta offered much more
>> than just being an editor.
I agree with that. The editor is just a part of what an IDE such as Quanta did.
some years ago, there was this talk about kdevelop for php and I decided to give it a try.
I liked its editor features for php but never got the hang of it for managing a whole
site, with php, html, js...
Last year I switched to eclipse/aptana and it worked well, with good code completio and
suggestions not only for php but also html5, css3, etc...
>>
>> There are two things which I miss a lot with any other web/php
>> development environment (not just editors!), and which were offered by
>> quanta:
>>
>> 1. code replacement on the fly, meaning replacing ISO-characters which
>> are not in the common range with the HTML entity (particularly German
>> Umlauts)
I used to miss this too, but nowadays, I work mainly in utf8 and I think it offers better
performance whensearching/working with databases
>>
>> 2. Pressing one key to upload the modified files to the server via
>> ftp.
In Aptana you may create an ftp connection and synchronize your local wotking site with
the ftp copy on the server
>>
>> There are environments which allow modifiying the files online, but I
>> want to work with local copies and not with the files that are on the
>> server.
>>
>> Currently I use an editor plus a ftp client, where I have to check
>> which files I edited, and then upload them. That's just plain
>> cumbersome. I haven't found any working alternative.
>>
>> It's a pity, Trinity doesn't work on Kubuntu 13.4, either. So this
>> option which I used to choose until recently is also gone. :-(
>>
>> Regards
>> Martin
The programmers for Quanta did a fantastic job and I wish to thank them for making my job
as a web programmer a bit easier.
Regards,
Abner
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:45 PM, john Culleton
>>> <John@wexfordpress.com <mailto:John@wexfordpress.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The Quanta that came with KDE3.5 was a favorite tool. The
>>> Quanta that comes with KDE4 is totally incomprehensible. Short of
>>> reinstalling slackware 12.2 on a spare partition, is there a way to
>>> get back to the previous Quanta? The one with both a code window
>>> and a web view window side by side?
>>>
>>> I used Trinity for a while but it won't work with Slackware 14.
>>>
>>> --
>>> John Culleton
>>> Wexford Press
>>> Free list of books for self-publishers:
>>> http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html
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>>> available at http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html
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>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>
> Another feature I liked was the ability to view the code, view the
> results, or view both side by side.
>
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<font color="#000000">Hi Martin, John and all:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font color="#000000">El 29/05/13
11:33, john Culleton escribió:<br>
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<pre wrap=""><font color="#000000">On Wed, 29 May 2013 16:26:09 +0200
"Dr. Martin Senftleben" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" \
href="mailto:linux@drmartinus.de"><linux@drmartinus.de></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap=""><font color="#000000">Hi,
I just want to step in, because I am one of those users who are very
sad about Quanta's discontinuation.
Am 29.05.2013 00:30, schrieb erkin tek:
</font></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap=""><font color="#000000">I like kate, give it a try.
I used it to code php, html, js
</font></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><font color="#000000">
Such suggestions don't help much. Of course one can use quite a bunch
of editors in replacement of Quanta, but Quanta offered much more
than just being an editor.</font></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<font color="#000000">I agree with that. The editor is just a part
of what an IDE such as Quanta did.<br>
some years ago, there was this talk about kdevelop for php and I
decided to give it a try.<br>
I liked its editor features for php but never got the hang of it
for managing a whole site, with php, html, js...<br>
Last year I switched to eclipse/aptana and it worked well, with
good code completio and suggestions not only for php but also
html5, css3, etc...<br>
</font>
<blockquote
cite="mid:20130529103344.106cadd6@localb.wexfordpress.net"
type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap=""><font color="#000000">
There are two things which I miss a lot with any other web/php
development environment (not just editors!), and which were offered by
quanta:
1. code replacement on the fly, meaning replacing ISO-characters which
are not in the common range with the HTML entity (particularly German
Umlauts)</font></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<font color="#000000">I used to miss this too, but nowadays, I work
mainly in utf8 and</font> I think it offers better performance
whensearching/working with databases<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:20130529103344.106cadd6@localb.wexfordpress.net"
type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap=""><font color="#000000">
2. Pressing one key to upload the modified files to the server via
ftp.
</font></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
In Aptana you may create an ftp connection and synchronize your
local wotking site with the ftp copy on the server<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:20130529103344.106cadd6@localb.wexfordpress.net"
type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap=""><font color="#000000">
There are environments which allow modifiying the files online, but I
want to work with local copies and not with the files that are on the
server.
Currently I use an editor plus a ftp client, where I have to check
which files I edited, and then upload them. That's just plain
cumbersome. I haven't found any working alternative.
It's a pity, Trinity doesn't work on Kubuntu 13.4, either. So this
option which I used to choose until recently is also gone. :-(
Regards
Martin</font></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
The programmers for Quanta did a fantastic job and I wish to thank
them for making my job as a web programmer a bit easier.<br>
Regards,<br>
Abner<br>
<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:20130529103344.106cadd6@localb.wexfordpress.net"
type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap=""><font color="#000000">
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<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap=""><font color="#000000">
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:45 PM, john Culleton
<<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" \
href="mailto:John@wexfordpress.com">John@wexfordpress.com</a> <a \
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" \
href="mailto:John@wexfordpress.com"><mailto:John@wexfordpress.com></a>> \
wrote:
The Quanta that came with KDE3.5 was a favorite tool. The
Quanta that comes with KDE4 is totally incomprehensible. Short of
reinstalling slackware 12.2 on a spare partition, is there a way to
get back to the previous Quanta? The one with both a code window
and a web view window side by side?
I used Trinity for a while but it won't work with Slackware 14.
--
John Culleton
Wexford Press
Free list of books for self-publishers:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" \
href="http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html">http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html</a>
PDF e-book: "Create Book Covers with Scribus"
available at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" \
href="http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html">http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html</a>
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<pre wrap=""><font color="#000000">
</font></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><font color="#000000">
Another feature I liked was the ability to view the code, view the
results, or view both side by side.
</font></pre>
</blockquote>
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