From quanta Thu Jun 23 16:33:30 2011 From: John Culleton Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 16:33:30 +0000 To: quanta Subject: [Quanta] Re: Any progress on Quanta for KDE 4? Message-Id: <201106231233.30357.john () wexfordpress ! com> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=quanta&m=130884684924841 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--===============0623800337==" --===============0623800337== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary-01=_ar2AOc3E/dgb6EK" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Boundary-01=_ar2AOc3E/dgb6EK Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Friday, June 10, 2011 03:27:48 pm Billie Walsh wrote: > On 06/10/2011 02:15 PM, Milian Wolff wrote: > > John Culleton, 10.06.2011: > >> On Friday, June 10, 2011 09:26:14 am Milian Wolff wrote: > >>> Werner, 09.06.2011: > >>>> Hi > >>>> > >>>> What is the best (de facto) place/channel to watch for news about > >>>> those plugins being released? > >>> > >>> Our website (kdevelop.org), the planet (planetkde.org) or maybe even > >>> this mailing list. I hope to remember to write a mail here once this > >>> is done. > >>> > >>> Bye > >> > >> With these plugins will Kdevelop have a user interface and a > >> functionality similar to Quanta++? Or will I have to learn a new > >> package? If that is the case I can always learn Amaya or Bluefish > >> instead. I have both on my machine. > > > > No, KDevelop with these plugins will not equal Quanta3. Instead they > > probably aim (for now?) at a more advanced user base, i.e. those who > > write mostly PHP and don't need some fancy GUI to click together some > > HTML stuff. > > > > If Amaya or Bluefish fit your needs better, try them instead. > > > >> Will the plugins be shipped with KDE? > > > > Just like KDevelop is (for now?) in extragear, so will these plugins be > > eventually. I'll release them together with the other plugins. Distro > > packagers should then create easy-to-install packages for you, just like > > with KDevelop and the PHP plugin. > > > >> It looks like the developers want to extend Kdevelop but many users want > >> Quanta++ back again. I Quanta++ has been abandoned as a project then say > >> so and I will look elsewhere. > > > > I'd rather say: There are no Quanta+ developers (sadly!) and we KDevelop > > devs try to do our best to improve what we have. Note that most of us > > don't have a need for Webdevelopment related things. Niko and me only > > invest time on a few things which we personally would use (i.e. advanced > > language support). Most of the old Quanta+ features don't appeal to us, > > hence we don't spend time on bringing them back to live. > > > > Anyhow, I suggest at least trying KDevelop for PHP development, before > > you look elsewhere. > > > > Bye > > So, I guess the bottom line is that the best web authoring software > available for any OS is just going to die off due to a lack of developer > interest. > > Bluefish is a pretty fair start on a good piece of software. Not even > close to Quanta, but a start. > > Just got Amaya installed and haven't had time to play with it much so > can't really comment. It doesn't look as intuitive as Quanta at a first > glance. > > KompoZer is another fair start but it has some pretty bad habits. > > Anyone else have any other suggestions? If there were a way to run Quanta in a virtual window on KDE4 machines that would do it. Where can I find the source code for Quanta? -- John Culleton "Death Wore Black" Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html --Boundary-01=_ar2AOc3E/dgb6EK Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

On Friday, June 10, 2011 03:27:48 pm Billie Walsh wrote:

> On 06/10/2011 02:15 PM, Milian Wolff wrote:

> > John Culleton, 10.06.2011:

> >> On Friday, June 10, 2011 09:26:14 am Milian Wolff wrote:

> >>> Werner, 09.06.2011:

> >>>> Hi

> >>>>

> >>>> What is the best (de facto) place/channel to watch for news about

> >>>> those plugins being released?

> >>>

> >>> Our website (kdevelop.org), the planet (planetkde.org) or maybe even

> >>> this mailing list. I hope to remember to write a mail here once this

> >>> is done.

> >>>

> >>> Bye

> >>

> >> With these plugins will Kdevelop have a user interface and a

> >> functionality similar to Quanta++? Or will I have to learn a new

> >> package? If that is the case I can always learn Amaya or Bluefish

> >> instead. I have both on my machine.

> >

> > No, KDevelop with these plugins will not equal Quanta3. Instead they

> > probably aim (for now?) at a more advanced user base, i.e. those who

> > write mostly PHP and don't need some fancy GUI to click together some

> > HTML stuff.

> >

> > If Amaya or Bluefish fit your needs better, try them instead.

> >

> >> Will the plugins be shipped with KDE?

> >

> > Just like KDevelop is (for now?) in extragear, so will these plugins be

> > eventually. I'll release them together with the other plugins. Distro

> > packagers should then create easy-to-install packages for you, just like

> > with KDevelop and the PHP plugin.

> >

> >> It looks like the developers want to extend Kdevelop but many users want

> >> Quanta++ back again. I Quanta++ has been abandoned as a project then say

> >> so and I will look elsewhere.

> >

> > I'd rather say: There are no Quanta+ developers (sadly!) and we KDevelop

> > devs try to do our best to improve what we have. Note that most of us

> > don't have a need for Webdevelopment related things. Niko and me only

> > invest time on a few things which we personally would use (i.e. advanced

> > language support). Most of the old Quanta+ features don't appeal to us,

> > hence we don't spend time on bringing them back to live.

> >

> > Anyhow, I suggest at least trying KDevelop for PHP development, before

> > you look elsewhere.

> >

> > Bye

> So, I guess the bottom line is that the best web authoring software

> available for any OS is just going to die off due to a lack of developer

> interest.

> Bluefish is a pretty fair start on a good piece of software. Not even

> close to Quanta, but a start.

> Just got Amaya installed and haven't had time to play with it much so

> can't really comment. It doesn't look as intuitive as Quanta at a first

> glance.

> KompoZer is another fair start but it has some pretty bad habits.

> Anyone else have any other suggestions?

If there were a way to run Quanta in a virtual window on

KDE4 machines that would do it.

Where can I find the source code for Quanta?

John Culleton

"Death Wore Black" Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/

"Create Book Covers with Scribus"

http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html

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