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List:       quanta
Subject:    Re: [Quanta] issues with installation
From:       Eric Laffoon <eric () kdewebdev ! org>
Date:       2008-07-27 18:20:58
Message-ID: 200807271120.59344.eric () kdewebdev ! org
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On Sunday 27 July 2008 12:36:38 am Mihamina Rakotomandimby (R12y) wrote:
> Eric Laffoon wrote:
> >> I'm running KDE 3.5.4 with Mandriva Free Edition 2007.
> >> The program was a tar.bz2 file.
>
> That is an archive of the source code.
> The problem is you will need to install the headers ("devel" pacakges)
> of the needed headers.

Oh yeah... My usual rant goes here. ;-) My system is entirely built from 
source so I have every include file (headers broken off into devel packages) 
installed for all installed software. This is how much of that new terrabyte 
drive they are saving space on.
system - 112 MB
Qt3	- 2.7 MB
KDE - 9.5 MB

My total /usr space used - 8.6 GB
Space taken up by header files - 1.4%

Here's my rant... The only reason to do extra work breaking out header files 
with binary packages (to save 1% space) is that most novice users will give 
up compiling programs when the first attempt fails. This practice was started 
by Red Hat back in the days when distributions saw selling boxed sets and 
service contracts as their revenue source. Breaking the ability to compile 
anything but a kernel is a rude way to treat novice users and will only stop 
when enough people complain. Note that somebody decided to make sure the 
kernel could be compiled.
>
[...]
> > 2) If you still have no targets then you have a tarball that has not had
> > the makefiles made or some issue with your configuration. If so run
> > this... make -f Makefile.cvs
>
> erm... what should be the error message if the guy has only a partial
> instal of the autotools?

It's either going to indicate some tool is missing or give some really weird 
message. Since it's expected people may recompile their kernel distros don't 
install without the basic tool chain... AFAIK.
>
> > 3) su to run make install unless you are using a home directory custom
> > install path.
>
> +1.
>
> But he is going into some headers files troubles if he doesn't install
> the right ones.
> And that needs a little experience.

In theory you should be able to use wildcards at the command line for all 
kernel headers (probably already there)
xorg
qt
kdelibs
Installing these "devel" packages should do it. Don't install the default 
developer install for your distro unless you want another 350 MB of random 
tools even I use very few of as a developer.

-- 
Eric Laffoon
Project Lead - kdewebdev module
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