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List:       quanta
Subject:    Re: [Quanta] Quanta and FTP
From:       Eric Laffoon <eric () kdewebdev ! org>
Date:       2008-04-24 17:29:37
Message-ID: 200804241029.37840.eric () kdewebdev ! org
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On Thursday 24 April 2008 9:45:56 am Javier Di Mauro wrote:
> 2008/4/24 Gabriele Brosulo <brosulo@edisoft.net>:
> > On Thursday 24 April 2008 12:31:41 Eric Laffoon wrote:
> > > On Thursday 24 April 2008 1:30:34 am Gabriele Brosulo wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > quanta dose not allow me to upload my project through FTP. I need it
> > > > because I'm now working on a project on a win2003 server, and I don't
> > > > know any other way to upload my files.
> > > >
> > > > thanks a lot
> > >
> > > How do I interpret that? Quanta uses KDE KIO which means you have FTP,
> > > SFTP, SMB and other ways to upload. So is it broken, did you not know
> > > how to set up a project or is your server broken? (I mean more than
> > > Windows usually is) Have you set up a project to manage your uploads
> > > and did you select FTP? Do you have mulltiple upload profiles and had
> > > the wrong one?
> > >
> > > Are you on a local net or is it remote? Without more information we are
> > > left to the "magic wand fix". Here's how it works...
> > >
> > > 1) You say "It's broken".
> > > 2) We begin waving the magic wand...
> > > 3) You ask why it's still broken ;)
> > >
> > > I think going with a diagnosis based on some real data is our best way
> > > to go. :)
> >
> > You're right, but I'm not a native English speaker (as you can see :) )
> > and I've some difficultyes writing long email..
> >
> > The problem is that changing the upload profile I didn't see the ftp
> > protocol
> > option (there wasn't, I'm sure), but now it's there.. mmm... Maybe I've
> > to stop drinking before work.. (joking)
> >
> > Thanks a lot,
> > everithing is working well, now!
> >
> > --
> > g4b0, linux user n. 369000
> > http://gabo.homelinux.com
>
> You can found this interesting as the way it can be used (this is bluefish
> but is the same for quanta)
> http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/movies/working_with_remote_files.html
>
> You can also target that path as a favourite and so will have a shortcut
> for accessing ftp.
>
> Greetings,
> Javier.

It's really sort of copying what we've had for some time. No doubt after being 
asked over and over again. The reason is that KDE has had KIO since version 
2.0 in 2000 or 2001. So you can do all what they show in virtually *any* kde 
application, including a special protocol that uses ssh and scp for secure 
communciation... fish://user@domain/path. Again, any KDE application from 
Konqueror to Quanta does this, but this omits what else Quanta does that 
Bluefish doesn't... It's vaguely similar, not the same...

1) Multiple upload profiles - each one available when you open your project in 
the right dock under profiles
2) Top directories - in the file tree on the left (not project, file) you can 
right click and set top directories and they can be local or remote. 
3) The fish fake VPN trick - use ssh-keygen and don't give a password. Look at 
man:/ssh-keygen. After you upload your public key to any remote site you are 
logged on for ssh automatically... and since fish uses ssh you can go to 
these locations never getting a password prompt. (Don't do this in top 
directories or you will be waiting for them all to load when you open Quanta)
4) KIO fun - you can use virtually any protocol, even the absurd ones. You can 
use smb for Windows and Samba or USB to upload to a memory card, or save it 
on your camera or phone... any KIO slave capable of reading and writing.

Plus you can have the project run any script before or after any file 
operation... So for instance you could have it establish a network 
connection, upload and close the connection as one example.

These are just some of the reasons Quanta has been the favorite web 
debvelopment tool on *nix for over half a decade, forever in internet time.


-- 
Eric Laffoon
Project Lead - kdewebdev module
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