'RE: [Qgis-developer] plugin's menu organization'

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List:       qgis-developer
Subject:    RE: [Qgis-developer] plugin's menu organization
From:       Chris Crook <ccrook () linz ! govt ! nz>
Date:       2010-03-29 19:21:08
Message-ID: 666FB8D75E95AE42965A0E76A5E5337E064F96275E () prdlsmmsg01 ! ad ! linz ! govt ! nz
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Hi Andreas

I guess I'm thinking that this information isn't required until the plugin is \
installed, so putting it into the installation, rather than the repository, seems to \
make sense to me.  And once the plugin is installed, it does not necessarily know \
what repository it was installed from, or have access to the repository XML file.  It \
seems to me that how and where the plugin installs itself into Qgis is the business \
of the plugin, not the business of the repository.  

I agree that it is a really good idea to make this information available in a \
standard form.  There is a new function in the qgis.utils python module, \
showPluginHelp, which I suggested as a way of moving towards a standardised format \
for plugin documentation. 

BTW - do you know where there is a definition of the plugins.xml schema?  I've copied \
an existing file for an inhouse repository of business specific plugins, but I'd like \
to make sure I'm doing it correctly.

Cheers
Chris

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                [mailto:qgis-developer-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Andreas \
                Neumann
Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2010 7:50 a.m.
To: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] plugin's menu organization

Hi Chris,

yes - this could be a local cache - but somewhere you have to get the information \
from - and for that purpose the repository's plugins.xml file would be a good source, \
wouldn't it?

Andreas

On 3/29/10 8:33 PM, Chris Crook wrote:
> Wouldn't it be simpler to have a standard document in the plugin folder (at least \
> for python plugins).  This could then be used by the installer, and at any other \
> time.  I'm not sure there is any advantage to putting it into the repository XML \
> file? 
> Chris
> ________________________________________
> From: qgis-developer-bounces@lists.osgeo.org 
> [qgis-developer-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Andreas Neumann 
> [a.neumann@carto.net]
> Sent: 30 March 2010 01:53
> To: MORREALE Jean Roc
> Cc: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] plugin's menu organization
> 
> It doesn't mean that the information should be exclusively available 
> to the plugin installer. The same information could be made available 
> through different mechanisms. But it would provide immediate feedback 
> to the user about how to use the plugin.
> 
> Andreas
> 
> On Mon, March 29, 2010 11:24 am, MORREALE Jean Roc wrote:
> 
> > I'm not sure because if a user click on it without looking at it then 
> > he doesn't get the information and no other way to get it again (just 
> > by reinstalling it).
> > 
> > 
> > Le lun 29/03/10 08:41, "Andreas Neumann" a.neumann@carto.net a écrit:
> > 
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > For the issue on how to find the plugin: one option would be to have 
> > > a mini-documentation popping up after the plugin install that indicates:
> > > 
> > > * where to find the plugin (menu, toolbar)
> > > * quick info how to use it
> > > * Link to webpage with full documentation.
> > > 
> > > This mini documentation could be part of the plugins.xml file of the 
> > > repository.
> > > 
> > > What do you think?
> > > 
> > > Andreas
> > > 
> > > On Sun, March 28, 2010 10:45 pm, Borys Jurgiel wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > Completely seperate plugin section, otherwise
> > > > > 
> > > when you turn on a plugin
> > > 
> > > > you'll have no idea where it is. An exception to
> > > > 
> > > this would be if the
> > > 
> > > > Manage plugins where you go to activate them had
> > > > 
> > > tabs with the same
> > > 
> > > > names, that would clearly indicate where you
> > > > 
> > > should find the plugin once
> > > 
> > > > it's turned on.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks. So clear categorization withing the existing
> > > > 
> > > plugin menu seems
> > > best
> > > 
> > > > for a start.
> > > > 
> > > > 
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> > > 
> > > --
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> > > 
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