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Subject: Re: [Idle-dev] The Future of Python
From: Vatroslav Suton <vatroslavsuton () aim ! com>
Date: 2014-02-28 16:30:38
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I have some source that includes pyopengl
Just give me some time to settle down, I'd be glad to share
Vatroslav Suton
vatroslavsuton@aim.com
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From: Bruce Sherwood <Bruce_Sherwood@ncsu.edu>
To: Todd V. Rovito <rovitotv@rovitotv.org>
Cc: idle-dev <idle-dev@python.org>
Sent: Mon, Feb 17, 2014 8:01 pm
Subject: Re: [Idle-dev] The Future of Python
Thanks for pointing out iPython, which indeed has many good features. GlowScript and \
VPython have a different goal, which is to make it quite easy for nonexpert \
programmers, including novices, to write programs that generate real-time navigable \
3D animations as a side effect of computations. One very large population (several \
tens of thousands per semester) is students in an intro physics course who, despite \
no prior programming experience, use the VPython module to be able to write short \
Python programs that model physical systems and show 3D animations of these systems. \
VPython is also used in several advanced computational physics textbooks. GlowScript \
could also be an appropriate environment for these students if the programming \
language could be Python rather than JavaScript or CoffeeScript, which aren't very \
good languages for novice use.
Bruce
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Todd V. Rovito <rovitotv@rovitotv.org> wrote:
Phil and Bruce,
One of the best ways to run Python from the web is with iPython's notebook feature:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPython
This might not be exactly what you want but it works great for scientist and \
engineers. Sharing code between S&E's is trivial with iPython. I find iPython good \
for developing small chunks of code and sharing with people. Anything serious I \
still use IDLE.
Sent from my iPad
> On Feb 17, 2014, at 10:38 AM, phil jones <interstar@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ah ... OK. Will try Chromium.
>
>
> > On 17 February 2014 12:32, Bruce Sherwood <Bruce_Sherwood@ncsu.edu> wrote:
> > Thanks to a report, I find that the Brython/GlowScript machinery doesn't
> > work in Firefox or IE; it does work in Chrome. Dunno why. It's early days.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
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10pt;">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Bruce Sherwood <Bruce_Sherwood@ncsu.edu><br>
To: Todd V. Rovito <rovitotv@rovitotv.org><br>
Cc: idle-dev <idle-dev@python.org><br>
Sent: Mon, Feb 17, 2014 8:01 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Idle-dev] The Future of Python<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks for pointing out iPython, which indeed has many good features. \
GlowScript and VPython have a different goal, which is to make it quite easy for \
nonexpert programmers, including novices, to write programs that generate real-time \
navigable 3D animations as a side effect of computations. One very large population \
(several tens of thousands per semester) is students in an intro physics course who, \
despite no prior programming experience, use the VPython module to be able to write \
short Python programs that model physical systems and show 3D animations of these \
systems. VPython is also used in several advanced computational physics textbooks. \
GlowScript could also be an appropriate environment for these students if the \
programming language could be Python rather than JavaScript or CoffeeScript, which \
aren't very good languages for novice use. <div>
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<div>Bruce</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Todd V. Rovito <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rovitotv@rovitotv.org">rovitotv@rovitotv.org</a>></span> \
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; \
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: \
solid;">Phil and Bruce,<br>
One of the best ways to run Python from the web is with iPython's notebook \
feature:<br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPython" \
target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPython</a><br>
<br>
This might not be exactly what you want but it works great for scientist and \
engineers. Sharing code between S&E's is trivial with iPython. I find \
iPython good for developing small chunks of code and sharing with people. \
Anything serious I still use IDLE.<br>
<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPad<br>
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> On Feb 17, 2014, at 10:38 AM, phil jones <<a \
href="mailto:interstar@gmail.com">interstar@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Ah ... OK. Will try Chromium.<br>
><br>
><br>
>> On 17 February 2014 12:32, Bruce Sherwood <<a \
href="mailto:Bruce_Sherwood@ncsu.edu">Bruce_Sherwood@ncsu.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Thanks to a report, I find that the Brython/GlowScript machinery doesn't<br>
>> work in Firefox or IE; it does work in Chrome. Dunno why. It's early \
days.<br>
>><br>
>> Bruce<br>
>><br>
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target="_blank">https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/idle-dev</a><br>
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