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Subject:    Re: [Catalog-sig] [Distutils]  Merge catalog-sig and distutils-sig
From:       Richard Jones <richard () python ! org>
Date:       2013-03-30 22:20:15
Message-ID: CAHrZfZBUBEDc0B-QmM64bO=uckkYK7qruPUyzap=45CfAdYL0Q () mail ! gmail ! com
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I've set the wheels in motion. I just need a little help from the pydotorg
volunteers (and some hits from the mailman cluebat).


    Richard


On 30 March 2013 06:43, Donald Stufft <donald@stufft.io> wrote:

>
> On Mar 29, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Richard Jones <richard@python.org>
> wrote:
> >> On 29 March 2013 14:45, Tres Seaver <tseaver@palladion.com> wrote:
> >>> If we leave the main list the 'distutils-sig', and just announce that
> >>> 'catalog-sig' is retired, folks who want to follow the new list just
> >>> switch over.  All the archives (mailman / gmane / etc.) stay valid, but
> >>> the list goes into moderated mode.
> >>
> >> Whoever has the power to do this, do it please.
> >
> > +1
> >
> > distutils-sig it is. We're expanding the charter to "the distutils
> > standard library module, the Python Package Index and associated
> > interoperabilty standards", but that's a lot easier than forcing
> > everyone to rewrite their mail filters.
> >
> > Besides, it's gonna be a *long* time before the default build system
> > in the standard library is anything other than distutils. Coupling the
> > build system to the language release cycle has proven to be a *bad
> > idea*, because the addition of new platform support needs to happen in
> > a more timely fashion than language releases. The incorporation of pip
> > bootstrapping into 3.4 will also make it a lot easier to recommend
> > more readily upgraded alternatives.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Nick.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Nick Coghlan   |   ncoghlan@gmail.com   |   Brisbane, Australia
> > _______________________________________________
> > Distutils-SIG maillist  -  Distutils-SIG@python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
>
> Sounds good to me, whoever please to doing the needful.
>
> -----------------
> Donald Stufft
> PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372
> DCFA
>
>

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<div dir="ltr">I&#39;ve set the wheels in motion. I just need a little help from the \
pydotorg volunteers (and some hits from the mailman \
cluebat).<div><br></div><div><div><br></div><div style>    \
Richard</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"> <br><br><div \
class="gmail_quote">On 30 March 2013 06:43, Donald Stufft <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a \
href="mailto:donald@stufft.io" target="_blank">donald@stufft.io</a>&gt;</span> \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px \
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
On Mar 29, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Nick Coghlan &lt;<a \
href="mailto:ncoghlan@gmail.com">ncoghlan@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br> <br>
&gt; On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Richard Jones &lt;<a \
href="mailto:richard@python.org">richard@python.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br> &gt;&gt; On 29 \
March 2013 14:45, Tres Seaver &lt;<a \
href="mailto:tseaver@palladion.com">tseaver@palladion.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br> \
&gt;&gt;&gt; If we leave the main list the &#39;distutils-sig&#39;, and just announce \
that<br> &gt;&gt;&gt; &#39;catalog-sig&#39; is retired, folks who want to follow the \
new list just<br> &gt;&gt;&gt; switch over.  All the archives (mailman / gmane / \
etc.) stay valid, but<br> &gt;&gt;&gt; the list goes into moderated mode.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Whoever has the power to do this, do it please.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; +1<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; distutils-sig it is. We&#39;re expanding the charter to &quot;the distutils<br>
&gt; standard library module, the Python Package Index and associated<br>
&gt; interoperabilty standards&quot;, but that&#39;s a lot easier than forcing<br>
&gt; everyone to rewrite their mail filters.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Besides, it&#39;s gonna be a *long* time before the default build system<br>
&gt; in the standard library is anything other than distutils. Coupling the<br>
&gt; build system to the language release cycle has proven to be a *bad<br>
&gt; idea*, because the addition of new platform support needs to happen in<br>
&gt; a more timely fashion than language releases. The incorporation of pip<br>
&gt; bootstrapping into 3.4 will also make it a lot easier to recommend<br>
&gt; more readily upgraded alternatives.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Cheers,<br>
&gt; Nick.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Nick Coghlan   |   <a href="mailto:ncoghlan@gmail.com">ncoghlan@gmail.com</a>   \
|   Brisbane, Australia<br> </div></div><div class="im">&gt; \
_______________________________________________<br> &gt; Distutils-SIG maillist  -  \
<a href="mailto:Distutils-SIG@python.org">Distutils-SIG@python.org</a><br> &gt; <a \
href="http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig" \
target="_blank">http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig</a><br> <br>
</div>Sounds good to me, whoever please to doing the needful.<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
-----------------<br>
Donald Stufft<br>
PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA<br>
<br>
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