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From: Michael Ampofo Amoh - Gyebi <amohgyebigodwin () gmail ! com>
Date: 2023-05-04 11:19:33
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Bars and ChatGPT both use big data to make their calculations. In essence,
they need a lot of other people's code to train on it. We all know that
there is very little of PyQt source code on the internet. Perhaps there
isn't even a tutorial online for the task you were asking them. On the
bright side, I hate them robots, I hope we have a nofollow code or
something that prevents them from being trained on our future data.
Amoh-Gyebi Ampofo
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> After a number of iterations I have not been able to get Bard to give me a
> clean PyQt6.5 editor with find/replace.
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> It persistently messes up the longer Qt6 namespace references, and it keeps
> trying to write an event handler that returns True, when it should always
> return None. It thought that QPlainTextEdit had a replace() method. Etc.
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> Bottom line at this point getting usable code from Bard is more trouble
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> At the risk of boring the list, I went to chatGPT4 and asked it to compose
> a PyQt6 class of PlainTextEdit with find/replace dialog.
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> It also gave me repeated issues with name references, for example it seems
> to be confusing QPlainTextEdit with QText Cursor, writing code such as
> this:
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> next_match = cursor.movePosition(QPlainTextEdit.WordRight,
> > QPlainTextEdit.KeepAnchor)
> >
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> It also messes up the Qt6 lengthy reference strings for Qt enums and
> constants.
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> All these mistakes would be both annoying and confusing to a novice. They
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<div dir="auto">Bars and ChatGPT both use big data to make their calculations. In \
essence, they need a lot of other people's code to train on it. We all know that \
there is very little of PyQt source code on the internet. Perhaps there isn't \
even a tutorial online for the task you were asking them. On the bright side, I hate \
them robots, I hope we have a nofollow code or something that prevents them from \
being trained on our future data.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Amoh-Gyebi \
Ampofo</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div \
dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, May 4, 2023, 11:00 AM <<a \
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Date: Wed, 3 May 2023 13:13:50 -0700<br>
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After a number of iterations I have not been able to get Bard to give me a<br>
clean PyQt6.5 editor with find/replace.<br>
<br>
It persistently messes up the longer Qt6 namespace references, and it keeps<br>
trying to write an event handler that returns True, when it should always<br>
return None. It thought that QPlainTextEdit had a replace() method. Etc.<br>
<br>
Bottom line at this point getting usable code from Bard is more trouble<br>
than it is worth.<br>
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At the risk of boring the list, I went to chatGPT4 and asked it to compose<br>
a PyQt6 class of PlainTextEdit with find/replace dialog.<br>
<br>
It also gave me repeated issues with name references, for example it seems<br>
to be confusing QPlainTextEdit with QText Cursor, writing code such as this:<br>
<br>
next_match = cursor.movePosition(QPlainTextEdit.WordRight,<br>
> \
QPlainTextEdit.KeepAnchor)<br> ><br>
<br>
It also messes up the Qt6 lengthy reference strings for Qt enums and<br>
constants.<br>
<br>
All these mistakes would be both annoying and confusing to a novice. They<br>
require repeated trips to <a href="http://doc.qt.io" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" \
target="_blank">doc.qt.io</a> to figure out what the 'bot is trying<br> to \
say.<br>
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