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From: Nicola Raffo <nicola.raffo () rulex ! ai>
Date: 2021-10-27 9:19:48
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Hi Damien,
I have tried something similar in the past days but it seems not working to directly convert \
objects from PyQt4->PyQt5.
However, it has some good tips that I could partially use.
Thank you for you help.
Nicola
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From: Damien Elmes <pyqt@ankiweb.net>
Sent: 27 October 2021 09:55
Cc: pyqt <pyqt@riverbankcomputing.com>
Subject: Re: PyQt from py27 to py38
Here is an example of how we do it for PyQt5→PyQt6:
https://github.com/ankitects/anki/blob/036d04a7b1514fde0018280a79e98066275dae9c/qt/aqt/profiles. \
py#L159<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fankitects \
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You might be able to adapt it for PyQt4 as well. In our case we were incorrectly storing the \
pickled data back in the Python 2 days, so couldn't safely bring it into PyQt5.
On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 3:07 AM Tomas Sobota <tom@sobota.net<mailto:tom@sobota.net>> wrote:
A couple of ideas here:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54047757/unpickle-binary-file-to-text/54048296#54048296<http \
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Maybe you could take it from there?
Tom
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From: Nicola Raffo <nicola.raffo@rulex.ai<mailto:nicola.raffo@rulex.ai>>
Date: Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: PyQt from py27 to py38
To: RoadrunnerWMC <roadrunnerwmc@gmail.com<mailto:roadrunnerwmc@gmail.com>>
Similar scenario here, I have to deal with some data stored with pickled PyQt4 objects. The \
pickletools method can be useful to "read" the pickled data, but I need a conversion from PyQt4 \
to PyQt5 data in order to be able to load the data in Python 3.8 and whitout a proper method to \
do it I can't depickle data in Python 3.8.
Another idea could be to use the previous version of the code which still uses python 2.7 and \
to store them in another format, but this could take a long time.
What I need is a tool that allows me to automatically read and open these data in Python 3.8
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From: RoadrunnerWMC <roadrunnerwmc@gmail.com<mailto:roadrunnerwmc@gmail.com>>
Sent: 26 October 2021 17:06
To: Florian Bruhin <me@the-compiler.org<mailto:me@the-compiler.org>>
Cc: pyqt@riverbankcomputing.com<mailto:pyqt@riverbankcomputing.com> \
<pyqt@riverbankcomputing.com<mailto:pyqt@riverbankcomputing.com>>
Subject: Re: PyQt from py27 to py38
The pickletools method is at least doable for relatively simple pickles -- I have an \
application that does exactly that because another developer made the less-than-wise decision \
to store pickled PyQt4 objects in user data files a long time ago, and now I have to support \
reading them forever. The main downside is that you have to make a lot of assumptions about the \
structure of the pickle data, ones which technically don't need to always be true, but should \
nevertheless be safe if your users are all using CPython and not manually messing with the \
generated pickle data for some reason.
There is another option, too, which is to make a minimal fake "PyQt4" interface (just a few \
nearly-empty class stubs) and have pickle load using that. I chose the pickletools method \
because of the additional security benefits of avoiding using pickle.loads() on untrusted user \
data files.
On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 8:58 AM Florian Bruhin \
<me@the-compiler.org<mailto:me@the-compiler.org>> wrote: On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 11:47:40AM \
+0200, Florian Bruhin wrote:
> The harder way is to somehow coerce pickle into giving you the "raw"
> data without the PyQt object involved...
I just learned there's 'pickletools' in the stdlib:
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Using that, you could inspect the pickle manually and pick the data out
of it somehow. Given how pickles are structured, not exactly
straightfoward either, though.
Florian
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<div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, \
0, 0);"> Hi Damien,</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, \
0, 0);"> <br>
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<div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, \
0, 0);"> I have tried something similar in the past days but it seems not working to directly \
convert objects from PyQt4->PyQt5.</div> <div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, \
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br>
</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, \
0, 0);"> However, it has some good tips that I could partially use.</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, \
0, 0);"> <br>
</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, \
0, 0);"> Thank you for you help.</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, \
0, 0);"> <br>
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<div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, \
0, 0);"> Nicola</div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" \
color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Damien Elmes <pyqt@ankiweb.net><br> <b>Sent:</b> 27 October \
2021 09:55<br> <b>Cc:</b> pyqt <pyqt@riverbankcomputing.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: PyQt from py27 to py38</font>
<div> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div dir="ltr">Here is an example of how we do it for PyQt5→PyQt6:
<div><br>
</div>
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target="_blank">https://github.com/ankitects/anki/blob/036d04a7b1514fde0018280a79e98066275dae9c/qt/aqt/profiles.py#L159</a><br>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>You might be able to adapt it for PyQt4 as well. In our case we were incorrectly storing \
the pickled data back in the Python 2 days, so couldn't safely bring it into PyQt5.</div> \
</div> <br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 3:07 AM Tomas Sobota <<a \
href="mailto:tom@sobota.net">tom@sobota.net</a>> wrote:<br> </div>
<blockquote class="x_gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204); padding-left:1ex"> <div dir="ltr">
<div class="x_gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><font size="2">A couple of ideas \
here:<br> </font></div>
<div class="x_gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><font size="2"><a \
href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstackoverflow.com%2Fques \
tions%2F54047757%2Funpickle-binary-file-to-text%2F54048296%2354048296&data=04%7C01%7Cnicola. \
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originalsrc="https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54047757/unpickle-binary-file-to-text/54048296#54048296" \
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target="_blank">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54047757/unpickle-binary-file-to-text/54048296#54048296</a></font></div>
<div class="x_gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><font size="2">Maybe you could \
take it from there? <br>
</font></div>
<div class="x_gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif; font-size:large"><font \
size="2">Tom</font><br> </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 6:12 PM RoadrunnerWMC <<a \
href="mailto:roadrunnerwmc@gmail.com" target="_blank">roadrunnerwmc@gmail.com</a>> \
wrote:<br> </div>
<blockquote class="x_gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204); padding-left:1ex"> <div dir="ltr">(Just adding this to the mailing list, if \
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Date: Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 11:15 AM<br>
Subject: Re: PyQt from py27 to py38<br>
To: RoadrunnerWMC <<a href="mailto:roadrunnerwmc@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">roadrunnerwmc@gmail.com</a>><br> </div>
<br>
<br>
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<div style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
Similar scenario here, I have to deal with some data stored with pickled PyQt4 objects. The \
pickletools method can be useful to "read" the pickled data, but I need a conversion \
from PyQt4 to PyQt5 data in order to be able to load the data in Python 3.8 and whitout a \
proper method to do it I can't depickle data in Python 3.8.</div> <div \
style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br>
</div>
<div style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
Another idea could be to use the previous version of the code which still uses python 2.7 and \
to store them in another format, but this could take a long time.</div> <div \
style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br>
</div>
<div style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
What I need is a tool that allows me to automatically read and open these data in Python \
3.8</div> <div id="x_gmail-m_-5315984894876927095gmail-m_-5768338421949475074m_-7604932747331470930m_7624132110726387732appendonsend">
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dir="ltr"> <font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> \
RoadrunnerWMC <<a href="mailto:roadrunnerwmc@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">roadrunnerwmc@gmail.com</a>><br> <b>Sent:</b> 26 October 2021 17:06<br>
<b>To:</b> Florian Bruhin <<a href="mailto:me@the-compiler.org" \
target="_blank">me@the-compiler.org</a>><br> <b>Cc:</b> <a \
href="mailto:pyqt@riverbankcomputing.com" target="_blank">pyqt@riverbankcomputing.com</a> \
<<a href="mailto:pyqt@riverbankcomputing.com" \
target="_blank">pyqt@riverbankcomputing.com</a>><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: PyQt from py27 to \
py38</font> <div> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div dir="ltr">The pickletools method is at least doable for relatively simple pickles -- \
I have an application that does exactly that because another developer made the less-than-wise \
decision to store pickled PyQt4 objects in user data files a long time ago, and now I have to \
support reading them forever. The main downside is that you have to make a lot of assumptions \
about the structure of the pickle data, ones which technically don't <i>need</i> to always \
be true, but <i>should</i> nevertheless be safe if your users are all using CPython and \
not manually messing with the generated pickle data for some reason. <div><br>
</div>
<div>There is another option, too, which is to make a minimal fake "PyQt4" interface \
(just a few nearly-empty class stubs) and have pickle load using that. I chose the pickletools \
method because of the additional security benefits of avoiding using <font \
face="monospace">pickle.loads()</font> on untrusted user data files.</div>
</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir="ltr">On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 8:58 AM Florian Bruhin <<a \
href="mailto:me@the-compiler.org" target="_blank">me@the-compiler.org</a>> wrote:<br> </div>
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204); \
padding-left:1ex"> On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 11:47:40AM +0200, Florian Bruhin wrote:<br>
> The harder way is to somehow coerce pickle into giving you the "raw"<br>
> data without the PyQt object involved...<br>
<br>
I just learned there's 'pickletools' in the stdlib:<br>
<a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.python.org%2F3%2 \
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<br> Using that, you could inspect the pickle manually and pick the data out<br>
of it somehow. Given how pickles are structured, not exactly<br>
straightfoward either, though.<br>
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