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Subject: Re: [PyQt] Plans for PyQt with respect to Qt 5.6
From: Detlev Offenbach <detlev () die-offenbachs ! de>
Date: 2015-12-20 15:44:50
Message-ID: 2265270.lyoAXHPBIY () saturn
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On Sunday 20 December 2015, 12:01:38 Phil Thompson wrote:
> On 20 Dec 2015, at 11:50 am, Detlev Offenbach <detlev@die-offenbachs.de> wrote:
> > On Saturday 19 December 2015, 19:49:22 Dmitry Shachnev wrote:
> > > On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 01:11:09AM +0000, Phil Thompson wrote:
> > > > The "official" position is that PyQt supports the Qt releases, nothing
> > > > more, nothing less.
> > > >
> > > > However, if it easy to reference an external copy of QtWebKit (via new
> > > > flags to configure.py) then I'm happy to accept patches that implement
> > > > that support. Such patches will not be tested (except to make sure
> > > > they
> > > > don't break regular builds).
> > >
> > > According to Qt developer Thiago Macieira there will be official
> > > QtWebKit
> > > 5.6
> > >
> > > tarballs available [1]:
> > > | Actually, QtWebKit is guaranteed to work for at least a couple more
> > > | versions. We've just revisited the decision and will release a version
> > > | 5.6 of it that does compile.
> > > |
> > > | But it will not be included in the main binaries. You'll need to build
> > > | from
> > > | sources.
> >
> > Phil, how will you treat this situation with respect to the Windows
> > installer, which includes a copy of the Qt libraries? Will it include
> > QtWebKit?
> I don't know yet. I would really like the Windows installer to include only
> PyQt and none of Qt. With Python 3.5 and Qt 5.6 this is a possibility
> because there might be Python and Qt installers available built with the
> same compiler.
However, Windows users tend to prefer the easy way, which means, a single installer like
we have now would be much more acceptable. And having an all-inclusive installer would
mean, you can include QtWebKit (hint, hint).
Detlev--
*Detlev Offenbach*
detlev@die-offenbachs.de
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20 December 2015, 12:01:38 Phil Thompson wrote:</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
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text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > On Saturday 19 December 2015, 19:49:22 \
Dmitry Shachnev wrote:</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">> > > On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 01:11:09AM +0000, Phil \
Thompson wrote:</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > \
> > The "official" position is that PyQt supports the Qt releases, \
nothing</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > \
> > more, nothing less.</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
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-qt-user-state:0;">> > > > </p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > > However, if it easy to \
reference an external copy of QtWebKit (via new</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > > flags to configure.py) then \
I'm happy to accept patches that implement</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > > that support. Such patches \
will not be tested (except to make sure</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > > they</p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > > don't \
break regular builds).</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
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-qt-user-state:0;">> > > </p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">> > > According to Qt developer Thiago Macieira there \
will be official</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > \
> QtWebKit</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
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> 5.6</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > \
> </p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > \
> tarballs available [1]:</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">> > > | Actually, QtWebKit is guaranteed to work for at \
least a couple more</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">> > > | versions. We've just revisited the decision and \
will release a version</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">> > > | 5.6 of it that does compile.</p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > | </p> <p \
style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > | But it will \
not be included in the main binaries. You'll need to build</p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > | from</p> <p \
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-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > | sources.</p> \
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > </p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > Phil, how will you \
treat this situation with respect to the Windows</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > installer, which includes a copy of the \
Qt libraries? Will it include</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">> > QtWebKit?</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> I don't know yet. I would really like the \
Windows installer to include only</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">> PyQt and none of Qt. With Python 3.5 and Qt 5.6 this is a \
possibility</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> \
because there might be Python and Qt installers available built with the</p> <p \
style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> same compiler.</p> <p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">However, Windows users tend \
to prefer the easy way, which means, a single installer like we have now would be \
much more acceptable. And having an all-inclusive installer would mean, you can \
include QtWebKit (hint, hint).</p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Detlev<br />-- </p> <p style=" margin-top:12px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-size:0.92em; \
font-weight:600;">Detlev Offenbach</span></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">detlev@die-offenbachs.de</p></body></html>
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