On Wednesday 06 April 2005 14:24, Phil Thompson wrote: > I've been meaning to do this for ages - maybe it will be useful for people > who are trying to convince management types how unproductive C++ is. > > Please note, although the comparison here is with Python, I'm sure that > similar figures would be obtained for any similar language. > > From time to time we get commissioned to develop Python bindings for Qt > based widget sets. These often come with examples and part of the work is > to port those examples to Python. We then end up with C++ and Python > implementations with the same structure, the same functionality, and > calling the same API. Any difference in the amount of code is purely down > to "language overhead". > > Below is a comparison of the numbers of lines of code for a number of such > examples. For the C++ implementations I have excluded all .pro files and > all qmake and moc generated files. > > C++ Python Reduction > example_1 509 318 38% > example_2 871 516 41% > example_3 225 132 41% > example_4 142 72 49% > example_5 615 363 41% > example_6 56 46 18% > example_7 1445 764 47% > example_8 536 312 42% Probably most of the lines saved are because you don't need to duplicate method definitions in the .h files for languages like python or ruby. Most of the time one line of C++ in the .cpp file becomes one line in the .py or .rb I think there is more a saving when you write the app in a way which you couldn't do in C++. A good example of that is the PyKDE uisampler app, it puts various names in a nested hash: listItems = {"Dialogs": {"KAboutDialog": ["KAboutApplication", "KAboutContainer", "KImageTrackLabel",\ "KAboutContainerBase", "KAboutContributor", "KAboutWidget"],\ "KAboutKDE": [],\ "KBugReport": [],\ "KColorDialog": [],\ ... The pulls stuff out of the hash and uses 'eval' to invoke the code: def lvClicked (self, lvItem): if not lvItem: return if lvItem.text (0).latin1 () in listItems.keys (): return p = lvItem.parent () if p.text (0).latin1 () in listItems.keys (): pfx = prefix [p.text (0).latin1 ()] funcCall = pfx + lvItem.text (0).latin1 () + "(self)" else: pfx = prefix [p.parent ().text (0).latin1 ()] funcCall = pfx + lvItem.parent ().text (0).latin1 () + "(self)" eval (funcCall) I translated it into ruby easily, but you just couldn't do it in C++: $listItems = {"Dialogs" => {"KDE::AboutDialog" => ["KDE::AboutApplication", "KDE::AboutContainer", "KDE::ImageTrackLabel", "KDE::AboutContainerBase", "KDE::AboutContributor", "KDE::AboutWidget"], "KDE::AboutKDE" => [], "KDE::BugReport" => [], "KDE::ColorDialog" => [], ... def lvClicked(lvItem) if lvItem.nil? return end if $listItems.keys().include?(lvItem.text(0)) return end p = lvItem.parent() if $listItems.keys().include?(p.text(0)) pfx = @prefix[p.text(0)] funcCall = pfx + lvItem.text(0).sub("KDE::","K") + "(self)" else pfx = @prefix[p.parent().text(0)] funcCall = pfx + lvItem.parent().text(0).sub("KDE::","K") + "(self)" end eval funcCall end -- Richard _______________________________________________ PyKDE mailing list PyKDE@mats.imk.fraunhofer.de http://mats.imk.fraunhofer.de/mailman/listinfo/pykde