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Subject:    Re: [Publib] "Anger as a Private Company Takes Over Libraries"
From:       Sue Kamm <suekamm () mindspring ! com>
Date:       2010-09-30 18:23:14
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<BODY><FONT face="trebuchet ms,sans-serif" size=3>Has anyone studied what happens \
when employees lose their civil service protection?&nbsp; One advantage of the civil \
service is that workers cannot be summarily dismissed for a minor transgression of \
the unit's rules.</FONT><BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; \
MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid">-----Original Message----- \
<BR>From: Diedre Conkling <DIEDRE08@GMAIL.COM><BR>Sent: Sep 30, 2010 11:12 AM <BR>To: \
Publib <PUBLIB@WEBJUNCTION.ORG><BR>Subject: Re: [Publib] "Anger as a Private Company \
Takes Over Libraries" <BR><BR> <DIV>It is my understanding that in many cases (if we \
can call 15 library systems many), the current staff is layed off and then many of \
them rehired under the terms of the private company.&nbsp; This takes them off of an \
previous employment contracts and union contracts that they may have been on.&nbsp; \
The retirement is taken off of the public retirement program and put on 401k's.&nbsp; \
Your government retirement may use 401k or 457b now but if this is run through a \
government entity, such as a state run PERS program. They will no longer be a part of \
this program, though I am sure they don't lose what is already in the program.&nbsp; \
And, since people are rehired for the private company their salaries and hours may be \
changed if they continue on with the library.&nbsp; There are city, county, etc. \
governments that have negotiated to keep some benefits the same as they were with a \
union contract but I don't know if that applies to new employees or just rehired \
employees.&nbsp; </DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I have not worked with LSSI and I do not work, and never have worked, in a \
library with a uniion but this is my understanding of how it works.&nbsp; \
<BR><BR></DIV> <DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:05 AM, <SPAN \
dir=ltr>&lt;<A href="mailto:terry.lawler@phoenix.gov" \
target=_blank>terry.lawler@phoenix.gov</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE \
class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: \
#ccc 1px solid"><FONT face="Default Sans Serif,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" \
size=2> <DIV>I'm curious about this pension thing.&nbsp; In my city, ALL city \
employees receive the same benefits.&nbsp; Is this not the case in the cities where \
LSSI is taking over?&nbsp; And, if so, why are they picking on librarians' pensions \
and not other city workers' pensions?<BR> \
<DIV>*********************************************************************<BR>Terry&nb \
sp;Ann&nbsp;Lawler&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n \
bsp;&nbsp;<BR>Children's&nbsp;Librarian&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp \
;&nbsp;&nbsp;4402&nbsp;N.&nbsp;51st&nbsp;Avenue<BR>Assistant&nbsp;Manager&nbsp;&nbsp;& \
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Phoenix&nbsp;&nbsp;AZ&nbsp;&nbsp; \
85031<BR>Palo&nbsp;Verde&nbsp;Library&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;602-534-5967<BR><A \
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color=#990099>-----<A href="mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org" \
target=_blank>publib-bounces@webjunction.org</A> wrote: -----<BR><BR></FONT> \
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; \
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">To: &lt;<A \
href="mailto:publib@webjunction.org" \
target=_blank>publib@webjunction.org</A>&gt;<BR>From: "ALICIA HOLSTON" &lt;<A \
href="mailto:ALICIA.HOLSTON@farmersbranch.info" \
target=_blank>ALICIA.HOLSTON@farmersbranch.info</A>&gt;<BR>Sent by: <A \
href="mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org" \
target=_blank>publib-bounces@webjunction.org</A><BR>Date: 09/29/2010 \
02:58PM<BR>Subject: Re: [Publib] "Anger as a Private Company Takes Over \
Libraries"<BR><BR> <DIV>Pezzanite&nbsp;is the CEO of LSSI, isn't he? Who will tell \
him to shut up? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Alicia Holston </DIV>
<DIV>Farmers Branch Manske Library </DIV>
<DIV>13613 Webb Chapel Rd. </DIV>
<DIV>Farmers Branch, TX 75234 </DIV>
<DIV>972-247-2511 <BR><BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Steve Standefer &lt;<A \
href="mailto:steve.standefer@mansfield-tx.gov" \
target=_blank>steve.standefer@mansfield-tx.gov</A>&gt; 9/28/2010 12:41 PM \
&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>Bad article in general, but LSSI needs to tell this guy to shut up \
and sit down. <BR><BR></DIV> <DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:56 AM, \
Janet Lerner <SPAN dir=ltr>&lt; <A href="mailto:jlerner86@gmail.com" \
target=_blank>jlerner86@gmail.com </A>&gt; </SPAN>wrote: <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE \
class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: \
#ccc 1px solid"> <DIV><A \
href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/27/business/27libraries.html?_r=1&amp;src=me&amp;ref=homepage" \
target=_blank>http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/27/business/27libraries.html?_r=1&amp;src=me&amp;ref=homepage \
</A></DIV> <DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; \
BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> <DIV>"A lot of libraries are atrocious," Mr. Pezzanite \
said. "Their policies are all about job security. That's why the profession is \
nervous about us. You can go to a library for 35 years and never have to do anything \
and then have your retirement. We're not running our company that way. You come to \
us, you're going to have to work." </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Terrible. </DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>J. Lerner </DIV></DIV><BR>_______________________________________________ \
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<P><EM>Diedre Conkling<BR>Lincoln County Library District<BR>P.O. Box \
2027<BR>Newport, OR&nbsp; 97365<BR>Phone &amp; Fax:&nbsp; 541-265-3066<BR><FONT \
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Your friendly CyberGoddess and ALA Councilor-at-large,
Sue Kamm
Inglewood/Los Angeles, CA
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