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From:       Marco Boeringa <marco () boeringa ! demon ! nl>
Date:       2020-05-15 13:01:35
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Hi Regina,

Thanks for explaining the reasons behind this. Yes, in hindsight putting 
a note up about deprecation could have helped, although in my case the 
function was part of some code I found on the Net and adjusted a little, 
so I didn't really have a reason to lookup the 'ST_Accum' function in 
the Help up to now, so would still have run into this.

Anyway, it is fixed now, and the code runs fine after switching to 
'array_agg'.

Marco

Op 15-5-2020 om 14:39 schreef Regina Obe:
> 
> Several reasons
> 
> 1)Each function in itself is not that much, but compounded over many 
> functions is a huge headache as if we change the newer version, we’d 
> then have to remember to change the wrapper and in this case we’d have 
> to keep track of what PostgreSQL is doing upstream since we have no 
> control of array_agg. Aggregates are especially annoying since we had 
> a state function tied behind this.  So was really like 4 functions.
> 
> 2)array_agg has been in PostgreSQL for a long long time.  We assumed 
> most users would be using that already instead of ST_Accum. There 
> really was no reason to use ST_Accum past PostGIS 1.5 for any version 
> of PostgreSQL. Granted we should have put a note on the page – 
> deprecated so people new we’d be taking it out.
> 
> 3)Wrappers are slower.  In the case of ST_Accum(), I think it’s 
> significantly slower
> 
> 4)People are already complaining about too many functions in PostGIS.  
> So keeping around old ones that we don’t want people using anyway just 
> adds to the frustration of new users.
> 
> *From:*postgis-users [mailto:postgis-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] 
> *On Behalf Of *Marco Boeringa
> *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2020 7:59 AM
> *To:* postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org
> *Subject:* Re: [postgis-users] Fwd: Re: Broken installs for PostGIS 
> for Ubuntu 20.04LTS / Focal?
> 
> Hi Regina,
> 
> Yes, I found this via Google. After the update, it now indeed errors 
> out on a 404. ST_Collect also no longer mentions it, so that seems 
> fine now.
> 
> I do slightly wonder by the way why ST_Accum wasn't simple 
> re-implemented as a wrapper around 'array_agg'. While I appreciate 
> breaking changes may be necessary and are to be expected for a major 
> version update like 2.x to 3.x, in this particular case, where 
> wrapping the function would have been an easy solution, could have 
> avoided breaking existing code with minimal effort and maintenance 
> overhead.
> 
> Anyway, the required code changes are luckily minimal as well, just 
> replace 'ST_Accum()' with 'array_agg()' as per the OSGeo tickets I 
> saw, so that is not a big deal. I have now implemented this in my own 
> code.
> 
> Marc,
> 
> Op 15-5-2020 om 13:24 schreef Regina Obe:
> 
> Yes stray doc.  Did you find this via google.  Looks like that
> page last got updated 4/17/2019.   It’s the nature of how we build
> the docs that the updates overwrite existing for a particular
> Minor version, but don’t delete.
> 
> So it existed early in the life cycle of 3.0 but was later removed
> 
> Anyway I’ve deleted ST_Length2D_Spheroid.html and
> ST_Point_Inside_Circle.html which also seemed to have the same issue
> 
> *From:*postgis-users
> [mailto:postgis-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf Of
> *Darafei "Kom?pa" Praliaskouski
> *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2020 5:55 AM
> *To:* PostGIS Users Discussion <postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org>
> <mailto:postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [postgis-users] Fwd: Re: Broken installs for
> PostGIS for Ubuntu 20.04LTS / Focal?
> 
> It is mentioned in changelog and removed from the docs. For
> some reason there is stray page from older release.
> 
> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 12:52 PM Tom van Tilburg
> <tom.van.tilburg@gmail.com <mailto:tom.van.tilburg@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> It's the first thing I ran into as well after upgrading .
> 
> But it hasn't been mentioned in the docs? Whoops... time for
> an issue...
> 
> Tom
> 
> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:56 AM Marco Boeringa
> <marco@boeringa.demon.nl <mailto:marco@boeringa.demon.nl>> wrote:
> 
> Tom,
> 
> It now appears the PostGIS team indeed removed 'ST_Accum',
> but forgot to update the online PostGIS Help. I see two
> OSGEO tickets related to this:
> 
> https://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/ticket/4356
> 
> https://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/changeset/17397
> 
> Both mention replacing 'ST_Accum' with 'array_agg'.
> 
> Marco
> 
> Op 15-5-2020 om 10:38 schreef Marco Boeringa:
> 
> Tom,
> 
> One more question:
> 
> After successfully installing the PostGIS 3.0.1
> extension using CREATE EXTENSION in pgAdmin4 on
> PostgreSQL 12.3 on Ubuntu 20.04 Focal, I now ran into
> an issue where it appears the 'ST_Accum' function is
> missing in my PostGIS install. My code calls this, and
> it failed. I then had a look at the function list in
> pgAdmin, and indeed 'ST_Accum' is not listed. I do see
> loads of other PostGIS functions, just 'ST_Accum'
> seems missing (although I cannot garantuee there are a
> few more missing functions, but the list seems pretty
> comprehensive from a quick look, and the CREATE
> EXTENSION call went without a hitch).
> 
> Can you confirm you see 'ST_Accum' in your PostGIS
> 3.0.1 function list if you look in pgAdmin? The
> PostGIS Help does not mention some deprecation of this
> function:
> 
> https://postgis.net/docs/ST_Accum.html
> 
> Marco
> 
> Op 14-5-2020 om 11:42 schreef Tom van Tilburg:
> 
> Whatever lives in /usr/local/lib was my manual
> build so I had to delete that manually.
> 
> I did  `sudo rm /usr/local/lib/libgeos*` (same for
> proj and sfcgal)
> 
> On top of that I purged all old package
> configurations `sudo apt purge <packagename>` just
> to be sure but I don't think it is needed.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Tom
> 
> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 10:45 AM Marco Boeringa
> <marco@boeringa.demon.nl
> <mailto:marco@boeringa.demon.nl>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tom,
> 
> Thanks for the tip, but what did you do to
> remove the old install? Did you rely on Apt or
> Synaptic to remove the old libgeos version, or
> did you manually clean up folders? I had two
> versions of libgeos as well (3.7 and 3.8) if I
> remember well (need to start up the VM again
> to check), and removed the older one through
> Synaptic just leaving the 3.8 version, but
> that wasn't enough to solve my particular issues.
> 
> Marco
> 
> Op 14-5-2020 om 10:32 schreef Tom van Tilburg:
> 
> I think I solved it.
> 
> The issue lies with gdal, not postgis
> (test by running `gdalinfo`), and it turns
> out there was an old install of libgeos
> (3.7) in my /us/local/lib. After simply
> removing all related files in
> /usr/local/lib gdal (and postgis and qgis)
> stopped complaining (I had to remove old
> installs of geos, proj and sfcgal for that).
> 
> This issue put me on the right track:
> 
> https://github.com/OSGeo/gdal/issues/2214
> 
> T.
> 
> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 3:15 PM Marco
> Boeringa <marco@boeringa.demon.nl
> <mailto:marco@boeringa.demon.nl>> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Tom,
> 
> I have seen a similar error related to
> the "libgdal26" library, but that was
> after other trials to get something
> running on Ubuntu 20.04 Focal, where I
> successfully installed PostGIS 2.5.4,
> but then encountered issues when my
> code called the
> "postgis_full_version()" function and
> errored out with the error message
> below related to the "libgdal.so.26"
> library. However, as said, this was
> with PostGIS 2.5.4, not with the
> PostGIS 3.0.1 I actually want to
> install at this moment and that gave
> the other error related to the
> "postgis-3.so" library.
> 
> SQL Error [XX000]: ERROR: could not
> load library
> "/usr/lib/postgresql/11/lib/rtpostgis-2.5.so
> <http://rtpostgis-2.5.so>":
> /usr/lib/libgdal.so.26: undefined
> symbol: GEOSMakeValid_r
> Where: SQL statement "SELECT
> public.postgis_gdal_version()"
> PL/pgSQL function
> postgis_full_version() line 34 at SQL
> statement
> 
> Marco
> 
> Sorry for the short answer, am on the
> way currently. Will try to do a decent
> report tonight.
> 
> Error is roughly the same but comes
> from libgdal26 in my case when doing
> apt install qgis after an upgrade to
> 20.04.
> 
> best, Tom
> 
> On Wed, 13 May 2020, 14:48 Marco
> Boeringa, <marco@boeringa.demon.nl
> <mailto:marco@boeringa.demon.nl>> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the response Tom, but
> could you be a bit more specific?
> 
> What do you mean with "Same
> problem with qgis"? Do you mean
> you've also encountered a
> "undefined symbol: GEOSMakeValid"
> error related to the
> "postgis-3.so" library when trying
> to use some tool in QGIS?
> 
> I have installed PostgreSQL 12 and
> PostGIS 3.0.1 via Synaptic on
> Ubuntu 20.04 (Focal) and use
> CREATE EXTENSION (via pgAdmin4),
> when I encounter the error.
> 
> Marco
> 
> Op 13-5-2020 om 14:40 schreef Tom
> van Tilburg:
> 
> Same problem with qgis
> 
> On Wed, 13 May 2020, 11:14
> Marco Boeringa,
> <marco@boeringa.demon.nl
> <mailto:marco@boeringa.demon.nl>>
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Is there someone who can
> confirm they have been
> able to install PostGIS
> 3.0.1 via the official APT
> repository?:
> 
> https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Apt
> 
> After using the Synaptics
> Package Manager to install
> the three packages
> involved
> ("postgresql-12-postgis-3"/"postgresql-12-postgis-3-dbgsym"/"postgresql-12-postgis-3-scripts"),
>  
> and subsequently trying to
> create the PostGIS
> extension in pgAdmin4, I
> get the following error:
> 
> ERROR: could not load
> library
> "/usr/lib/postgresql/12/lib/postgis-3.so":
> 
> /usr/lib/postgresql/12/lib/postgis-3.so:
> undefined symbol:
> GEOSMakeValid
> 
> I have been trying
> different things to fix
> this for past two days
> including re-install, but
> to no avail. I have also
> attempted to include
> the UbuntuGIS repository
> as a potential alternative
> resource of PostGIS
> packages, but discovered
> the UbuntuGIS repository
> is lagging behind and
> doesn't yet have packages
> for 20.04LTS.
> 
> Marco
> 
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    <p>Hi Regina,</p>
    <p>Thanks for explaining the reasons behind this. Yes, in hindsight
      putting a note up about deprecation could have helped, although in
      my case the function was part of some code I found on the Net and
      adjusted a little, so I didn't really have a reason to lookup the
      'ST_Accum' function in the Help up to now, so would still have run
      into this.</p>
    <p>Anyway, it is fixed now, and the code runs fine after switching
      to 'array_agg'.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Marco<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Each
  function in itself is not that much, but compounded over
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            version, we’d then have to remember to change the wrapper
            and in this case we’d have to keep track of what PostgreSQL
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            There really was no reason to use ST_Accum past PostGIS 1.5
            for any version of PostgreSQL. Granted we should have put a
            note on the page – deprecated so people new we’d be taking
            it out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            PostGIS.  So keeping around old ones that we don’t want
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                  postgis-users
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href="mailto:postgis-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">mailto:postgis-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>] \
<b>On  Behalf Of </b>Marco Boeringa<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 15, 2020 7:59 AM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" \
href="mailto:postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org">postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>  \
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [postgis-users] Fwd: Re: Broken
                  installs for PostGIS for Ubuntu 20.04LTS / \
Focal?<o:p></o:p></span></p>  </div>
          </div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          <p>Hi Regina,<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p>Yes, I found this via Google. After the update, it now
            indeed errors out on a 404. ST_Collect also no longer
            mentions it, so that seems fine now.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p>I do slightly wonder by the way why ST_Accum wasn't simple
            re-implemented as a wrapper around 'array_agg'. While I
            appreciate breaking changes may be necessary and are to be
            expected for a major version update like 2.x to 3.x, in this
            particular case, where wrapping the function would have been
            an easy solution, could have avoided breaking existing code
            with minimal effort and maintenance overhead.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p>Anyway, the required code changes are luckily minimal as
            well, just replace 'ST_Accum()' with 'array_agg()' as per
            the OSGeo tickets I saw, so that is not a big deal. I have
            now implemented this in my own code.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p>Marc,<o:p></o:p></p>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Op 15-5-2020 om 13:24 schreef Regina
              Obe:<o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
          <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Yes
                stray doc.  Did you find this via google.  Looks like
                that page last got updated 4/17/2019.   It’s the nature
                of how we build the docs that the updates overwrite
                existing for a particular Minor version, but don’t
                delete.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">So
                it existed early in the life cycle of 3.0 but was later
                removed</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Anyway
  I’ve deleted ST_Length2D_Spheroid.html and
                ST_Point_Inside_Circle.html which also seemed to have
                the same issue</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> \
</span><o:p></o:p></p>  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> \
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                        \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
 style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">
                      postgis-users [<a
                        href="mailto:postgis-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org"
                        \
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:postgis-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>]  <b>On \
Behalf Of </b>Darafei "Kom?pa"  Praliaskouski<br>
                      <b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 15, 2020 5:55 AM<br>
                      <b>To:</b> PostGIS Users Discussion <a
                        href="mailto:postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org"
                        \
moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org&gt;</a><br>  <b>Subject:</b> \
Re: [postgis-users] Fwd: Re:  Broken installs for PostGIS for Ubuntu 20.04LTS /
                      Focal?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">It is mentioned in changelog and
                  removed from the docs. For some reason there is stray
                  page from older release.<o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              <div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 12:52 PM
                    Tom van Tilburg &lt;<a
                      href="mailto:tom.van.tilburg@gmail.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">tom.van.tilburg@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                    wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
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                  <div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">It's the first thing I ran
                        into as well after upgrading .<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">But it hasn't been mentioned
                        in the docs? Whoops... time for an issue...<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Tom<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                  <div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:56
                        AM Marco Boeringa &lt;<a
                          href="mailto:marco@boeringa.demon.nl"
                          target="_blank" \
moz-do-not-send="true">marco@boeringa.demon.nl</a>&gt;  wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
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                        <p>Tom,<o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p>It now appears the PostGIS team indeed
                          removed 'ST_Accum', but forgot to update the
                          online PostGIS Help. I see two OSGEO tickets
                          related to this:<o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p><a
                            href="https://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/ticket/4356"
                            target="_blank" \
moz-do-not-send="true">https://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/ticket/4356</a><o:p></o:p></p>  \
                <p><a
                            href="https://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/changeset/17397"
                            target="_blank" \
moz-do-not-send="true">https://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/changeset/17397</a><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p>Both mention replacing 'ST_Accum' with
                          'array_agg'.<o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p>Marco<o:p></o:p></p>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Op 15-5-2020 om 10:38
                            schreef Marco Boeringa:<o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <blockquote
                          style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                          <p>Tom,<o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p>One more question:<o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p>After successfully installing the PostGIS
                            3.0.1 extension using CREATE EXTENSION in
                            pgAdmin4 on PostgreSQL 12.3 on Ubuntu 20.04
                            Focal, I now ran into an issue where it
                            appears the 'ST_Accum' function is missing
                            in my PostGIS install. My code calls this,
                            and it failed. I then had a look at the
                            function list in pgAdmin, and indeed
                            'ST_Accum' is not listed. I do see loads of
                            other PostGIS functions, just 'ST_Accum'
                            seems missing (although I cannot garantuee
                            there are a few more missing functions, but
                            the list seems pretty comprehensive from a
                            quick look, and the CREATE EXTENSION call
                            went without a hitch).<o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p>Can you confirm you see 'ST_Accum' in your
                            PostGIS 3.0.1 function list if you look in
                            pgAdmin? The PostGIS Help does not mention
                            some deprecation of this function:<o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p><a
                              href="https://postgis.net/docs/ST_Accum.html"
                              target="_blank" \
moz-do-not-send="true">https://postgis.net/docs/ST_Accum.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>  \
<p>Marco<o:p></o:p></p>  <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">Op 14-5-2020 om 11:42
                              schreef Tom van Tilburg:<o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <blockquote
                            style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                            <div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">Whatever lives in
                                  /usr/local/lib was my manual build so
                                  I had to delete that manually.<o:p></o:p></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">I did  `sudo rm
                                  /usr/local/lib/libgeos*` (same for
                                  proj and sfcgal)<o:p></o:p></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">On top of that I
                                  purged all old package configurations
                                  `sudo apt purge &lt;packagename&gt;`
                                  just to be sure but I don't think it
                                  is needed.<o:p></o:p></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> Tom<o:p></o:p></p>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                            <div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, May 14,
                                  2020 at 10:45 AM Marco Boeringa &lt;<a
href="mailto:marco@boeringa.demon.nl" target="_blank"
                                    \
moz-do-not-send="true">marco@boeringa.demon.nl</a>&gt;  wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                              </div>
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                                  <p>Hi Tom,<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p>Thanks for the tip, but what did
                                    you do to remove the old install?
                                    Did you rely on Apt or Synaptic to
                                    remove the old libgeos version, or
                                    did you manually clean up folders? I
                                    had two versions of libgeos as well
                                    (3.7 and 3.8) if I remember well
                                    (need to start up the VM again to
                                    check), and removed the older one
                                    through Synaptic just leaving the
                                    3.8 version, but that wasn't enough
                                    to solve my particular issues.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p>Marco<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Op 14-5-2020 om
                                      10:32 schreef Tom van Tilburg:<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <blockquote
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                                    <div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">I think I
                                          solved it.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">The issue
                                          lies with gdal, not postgis
                                          (test by running `gdalinfo`),
                                          and it turns out there was an
                                          old install of libgeos (3.7)
                                          in my /us/local/lib. After
                                          simply removing all related
                                          files in /usr/local/lib gdal
                                          (and postgis and qgis) stopped
                                          complaining (I had to remove
                                          old installs of geos, proj and
                                          sfcgal for that).<o:p></o:p></p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">This issue
                                          put me on the right track:<o:p></o:p></p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><a
                                            \
href="https://github.com/OSGeo/gdal/issues/2214"  target="_blank"
                                            \
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/OSGeo/gdal/issues/2214</a><o:p></o:p></p>  \
</div>  <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">T.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, May
                                          13, 2020 at 3:15 PM Marco
                                          Boeringa &lt;<a
                                            href="mailto:marco@boeringa.demon.nl"
                                            target="_blank"
                                            \
moz-do-not-send="true">marco@boeringa.demon.nl</a>&gt;  wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                                      </div>
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                                          <p>Thanks Tom,<o:p></o:p></p>
                                          <p>I have seen a similar error
                                            related to the "libgdal26"
                                            library, but that was after
                                            other trials to get
                                            something running on Ubuntu
                                            20.04 Focal, where I
                                            successfully installed
                                            PostGIS 2.5.4, but then
                                            encountered issues when my
                                            code called the
                                            "postgis_full_version()"
                                            function and errored out
                                            with the error message below
                                            related to the
                                            "libgdal.so.26" library.
                                            However, as said, this was
                                            with PostGIS 2.5.4, not with
                                            the PostGIS 3.0.1 I actually
                                            want to install at this
                                            moment and that gave the
                                            other error related to the
                                            "postgis-3.so" library.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                          <p>SQL Error [XX000]: ERROR:
                                            could not load library
                                            "/usr/lib/postgresql/11/lib/<a
href="http://rtpostgis-2.5.so" target="_blank" \
moz-do-not-send="true">rtpostgis-2.5.so</a>":  /usr/lib/libgdal.so.26:
                                            undefined symbol:
                                            GEOSMakeValid_r<br>
                                              Where: SQL statement
                                            "SELECT
                                            public.postgis_gdal_version()"<br>
                                            PL/pgSQL function
                                            postgis_full_version() line
                                            34 at SQL statement<o:p></o:p></p>
                                          <p>Marco<o:p></o:p></p>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> \
<o:p></o:p></p>  <div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">Sorry
                                                  for the short answer,
                                                  am on the way
                                                  currently. Will try to
                                                  do a decent report
                                                  tonight.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">Error
                                                  is roughly the same
                                                  but comes from
                                                  libgdal26 in my case
                                                  when doing apt install
                                                  qgis after an upgrade
                                                  to 20.04.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">best,
                                                  Tom<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal">On
                                                      Wed, 13 May 2020,
                                                      14:48 Marco
                                                      Boeringa, &lt;<a
                                                        \
href="mailto:marco@boeringa.demon.nl"  target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">marco@boeringa.demon.nl</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                                      <p>Thanks for the
                                                        response Tom,
                                                        but could you be
                                                        a bit more
                                                        specific? <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                      <p>What do you
                                                        mean with "Same
                                                        problem with
                                                        qgis"? Do you
                                                        mean you've also
                                                        encountered a
                                                        "undefined
                                                        symbol:
                                                        GEOSMakeValid"
                                                        error related to
                                                        the
                                                        "postgis-3.so"
                                                        library when
                                                        trying to use
                                                        some tool in
                                                        QGIS?<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                      <p>I have
                                                        installed
                                                        PostgreSQL 12
                                                        and PostGIS
                                                        3.0.1 via
                                                        Synaptic on
                                                        Ubuntu 20.04
                                                        (Focal) and use
                                                        CREATE EXTENSION
                                                        (via pgAdmin4),
                                                        when I encounter
                                                        the error.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          \
class="MsoNormal">Marco<o:p></o:p></p>  </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> \
<o:p></o:p></p>  </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Op
                                                          13-5-2020 om
                                                          14:40 schreef
                                                          Tom van
                                                          Tilburg:<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <blockquote
                                                        \
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">  <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Same
                                                          problem with
                                                          qgis<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> \
<o:p></o:p></p>  <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">On
                                                          Wed, 13 May
                                                          2020, 11:14
                                                          Marco
                                                          Boeringa, &lt;<a
href="mailto:marco@boeringa.demon.nl" target="_blank"
                                                          \
                moz-do-not-send="true">marco@boeringa.demon.nl</a>&gt;
                                                          wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                                          class="MsoNormal">Hi
                                                          all,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Is there
                                                          someone who
                                                          can confirm
                                                          they have been
                                                          able to
                                                          install
                                                          PostGIS <br>
                                                          3.0.1 via the
                                                          official APT
                                                          repository?:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          \
href="https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Apt" target="_blank" \
moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Apt</a><br>  <br>
                                                          After using
                                                          the Synaptics
                                                          Package
                                                          Manager to
                                                          install the
                                                          three packages
                                                          <br>
                                                          involved <br>
("postgresql-12-postgis-3"/"postgresql-12-postgis-3-dbgsym"/"postgresql-12-postgis-3-scripts"),
  <br>
                                                          and
                                                          subsequently
                                                          trying to
                                                          create the
                                                          PostGIS
                                                          extension in
                                                          pgAdmin4, I <br>
                                                          get the
                                                          following
                                                          error:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          ERROR: could
                                                          not load
                                                          library
                                                          \
"/usr/lib/postgresql/12/lib/postgis-3.so":  <br>
/usr/lib/postgresql/12/lib/postgis-3.so: undefined symbol: GEOSMakeValid<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I have been
                                                          trying
                                                          different
                                                          things to fix
                                                          this for past
                                                          two days <br>
                                                          including
                                                          re-install,
                                                          but to no
                                                          avail. I have
                                                          also attempted
                                                          to include <br>
                                                          the UbuntuGIS
                                                          repository as
                                                          a potential
                                                          alternative
                                                          resource of
                                                          PostGIS <br>
                                                          packages, but
                                                          discovered the
                                                          UbuntuGIS
                                                          repository is
                                                          lagging behind
                                                          and <br>
                                                          doesn't yet
                                                          have packages
                                                          for 20.04LTS.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Marco<br>
                                                          <br>
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moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-users</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    \
                <pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                    <pre>postgis-users mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                    <pre><a \
href="mailto:postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" \
moz-do-not-send="true">postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre>  <pre><a \
href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-users" target="_blank" \
moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-users</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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                                <p \
class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>  postgis-users \
mailing list<br>  <a
                                    href="mailto:postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    \
moz-do-not-send="true">postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>  <a
                                    \
href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-users"  target="_blank"
                                    \
moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-users</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                            \
                <pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre>postgis-users mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre>
                            <pre><a href="mailto:postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org" \
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
  <pre><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-users" \
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-users</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                          \
<pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre>  \
<pre>postgis-users mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre>  <pre><a \
href="mailto:postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" \
moz-do-not-send="true">postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre>  <pre><a \
href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-users" target="_blank" \
moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-users</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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                      <p \
class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>  postgis-users \
mailing list<br>  <a href="mailto:postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org"
                          target="_blank" \
moz-do-not-send="true">postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>  <a
                          \
                href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-users"
                          target="_blank" \
moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-users</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p \
class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>  postgis-users \
mailing list<br>  <a href="mailto:postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org"
                      target="_blank" \
moz-do-not-send="true">postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>  <a
                      href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-users"
                      target="_blank" \
moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-users</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Darafei Praliaskouski<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Support me: <a
                          href="http://patreon.com/komzpa"
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
              <br>
              <o:p></o:p></p>
            <pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre>postgis-users mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre><a href="mailto:postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org" \
moz-do-not-send="true">postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre>  <pre><a \
href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-users" \
moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-users</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" \
href="mailto:postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org">postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org</a> <a \
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" \
href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-users">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-users</a></pre>
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