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Subject:    Re: [postgis-users] Any way of assigning a name alias to the system "postgres" database?
From:       "Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)" <bob.basques () ci ! stpaul ! mn ! us>
Date:       2019-05-22 15:48:49
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Jorge,

Researching that right now.

These two links indicate that there is a local location for setting up conection \
files, but I'm not sure if they are ESRI specific or not.  I tried saving a \
connection configuration to look at, but the files are all binary that ERSI apps \
produce for the connections, which makes some sense with regards to security (I \
suppose).

https://desktop.arcgis.com/en/arcmap/10.3/manage-data/gdbs-in-postgresql/connect-postgresql.htm


https://desktop.arcgis.com/en/arcmap/10.3/manage-data/gdbs-in-postgresql/preconfigure-connection-files.htm


I'll need to experiment some more.  But the thing to try and figure out is if \
"service=<SomNonPostgresName>" can somehow be sent with the connection request.

bobb



On May 22, 2019, at 10:11 AM, Jorge Gustavo Rocha \
<jgr@di.uminho.pt<mailto:jgr@di.uminho.pt>> wrote:

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Hi Bob,

The goal is to use pg_services on the client side, ie, to configure the
ESRI client. Does ESRI clients work with pg_services? (I don't know!).
It's implemented in the Postgresql library, so clients rely on the
library to do the connection.

I used pgBouncer for several years and it worked quite well. It is stable.

Good luck,

Jorge

Às 16:00 de 22/05/19, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) escreveu:
Hi Jorge,

I found the info on the pg_service.conf file, and it works as described
for a local connection.  I need to connect from a remote location.  Also
looked at pgBouncer, but not sure how stable that is.

Trying to connect ESRI client to Postgres on the "postgres" database,
which ESRI outlaws for some odd reason saying it's a system table.  We
have been using the "postgres" DB for quite a long time, and across many
of our automated systems which are connected to it that would need to be
changed to use a different name.

bobb




On May 21, 2019, at 5:36 PM, Jorge Gustavo Rocha \
<jgr@di.uminho.pt<mailto:jgr@di.uminho.pt> <mailto:jgr@di.uminho.pt>> wrote:

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Hi Bob,

In which context you want to use an alias?

If it is just for connecting to the database, check pg_services.conf
[1]. It allows you to use a name that will be resolved by the local
pg_service.conf file.

You can also use a client pool manager, like pgBouncer. It allows you to
use a local name, different from the database name.

I hope it helps.

Regards,

Jorge Gustavo

[1] https://www.postgresql.org/docs/11/libpq-pgservice.html
[2] https://pgbouncer.github.io/

Às 20:19 de 21/05/19, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) escreveu:
All (trying PostGIS users first),

I have a need to call it by another name, but also to leave it named as
is for legacy stuff.

Anyone know of a way to do this?

Thanks

bobb





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<div class="">These two links indicate that there is a local location for setting up \
conection files, but I'm not sure if they are ESRI specific or not. &nbsp;I tried \
saving a connection configuration to look at, but the files are all binary that ERSI \
apps produce  for the connections, which makes some sense with regards to security (I \
suppose).</div> <div class=""><br class="">
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<div class=""><a href="https://desktop.arcgis.com/en/arcmap/10.3/manage-data/gdbs-in-postgresql/connect-postgresql.htm" \
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class="">https://desktop.arcgis.com/en/arcmap/10.3/manage-data/gdbs-in-postgresql/preconfigure-connection-files.htm</a></div>
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<div class="">I'll need to experiment some more. &nbsp;But the thing to try and \
figure out is if &quot;service=&lt;SomNonPostgresName&gt;" can somehow be sent with \
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<div class="">bobb</div>
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<div class="">On May 22, 2019, at 10:11 AM, Jorge Gustavo Rocha &lt;<a \
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inline !important;" class="">Think  Before You Click: This email originated outside \
our organization.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: \
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class=""> <br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; \
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!important;" class="">Hi  Bob,</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); \
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normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: \
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; \
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""> <br \
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; \
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: \
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: \
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" \
class=""> <span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; \
font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; \
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; \
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; \
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">The  goal \
is to use pg_services on the client side, ie, to configure the</span><br \
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; \
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: \
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" \
class=""> <span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; \
font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; \
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; \
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text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">ESRI  \
client. Does ESRI clients work with pg_services? (I don't know!).</span><br \
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; \
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: \
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: \
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" \
class=""> <span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; \
font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; \
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; \
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; \
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">It's  \
implemented in the Postgresql library, so clients rely on the</span><br \
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; \
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: \
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: \
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" \
class=""> <span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; \
font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; \
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; \
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; \
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">library  to \
do the connection.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: \
Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; \
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; \
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; \
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""> <br \
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; \
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: \
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: \
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" \
class=""> <span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; \
font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; \
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; \
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; \
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">I  used \
pgBouncer for several years and it worked quite well. It is stable.</span><br \
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; \
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: \
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: \
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" \
class=""> <br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; \
font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; \
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; \
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; \
text-decoration: none;" class=""> <span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); \
font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: \
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: \
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; \
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline \
!important;" class="">Good  luck,</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); \
font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: \
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: \
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; \
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""> <br \
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; \
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: \
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: \
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class=""> <span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; \
font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; \
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text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" \
class="">Jorge</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: \
Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; \
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style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; \
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: \
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" \
class=""> <span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; \
font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; \
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text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Às  16:00 \
de 22/05/19, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) escreveu:</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, \
0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; \
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: \
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: \
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""> <blockquote \
type="cite" style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; \
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: \
auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; \
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; \
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""> Hi Jorge,<br \
class=""> <br class="">
I found the info on the pg_service.conf file, and it works as described<br class="">
for a local connection. &nbsp;I need to connect from a remote location. &nbsp;Also<br \
class=""> looked at pgBouncer, but not sure how stable that is.<br class="">
<br class="">
Trying to connect ESRI client to Postgres on the "postgres" database,<br class="">
which ESRI outlaws for some odd reason saying it's a system table. &nbsp;We<br \
class=""> have been using the "postgres" DB for quite a long time, and across many<br \
class=""> of our automated systems which are connected to it that would need to be<br \
class=""> changed to use a different name.<br class="">
<br class="">
bobb<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">On May 21, 2019, at 5:36 PM, Jorge Gustavo Rocha \
&lt;<a href="mailto:jgr@di.uminho.pt" class="">jgr@di.uminho.pt</a><br class=""> \
&lt;<a href="mailto:jgr@di.uminho.pt" class="">mailto:jgr@di.uminho.pt</a>&gt;&gt; \
wrote:<br class=""> <br class="">
Think Before You Click: This email originated outside our organization.<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
Hi Bob,<br class="">
<br class="">
In which context you want to use an alias?<br class="">
<br class="">
If it is just for connecting to the database, check pg_services.conf<br class="">
[1]. It allows you to use a name that will be resolved by the local<br class="">
pg_service.conf file.<br class="">
<br class="">
You can also use a client pool manager, like pgBouncer. It allows you to<br class="">
use a local name, different from the database name.<br class="">
<br class="">
I hope it helps.<br class="">
<br class="">
Regards,<br class="">
<br class="">
Jorge Gustavo<br class="">
<br class="">
[1]&nbsp;<a href="https://www.postgresql.org/docs/11/libpq-pgservice.html" \
class="">https://www.postgresql.org/docs/11/libpq-pgservice.html</a><br class=""> \
[2]&nbsp;<a href="https://pgbouncer.github.io/" \
class="">https://pgbouncer.github.io/</a><br class=""> <br class="">
Às 20:19 de 21/05/19, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) escreveu:<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">All (trying PostGIS users first),<br class="">
<br class="">
I have a need to call it by another name, but also to leave it named as<br class="">
is for legacy stuff.<br class="">
<br class="">
Anyone know of a way to do this?<br class="">
<br class="">
Thanks<br class="">
<br class="">
bobb<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
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