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List:       postfix-users
Subject:    Re: Bounce Messages
From:       "Linux Addict" <linuxaddict7 () gmail ! com>
Date:       2007-12-27 15:22:56
Message-ID: 707abafb0712270722u9444b83tddb0ae1bfd2c5679 () mail ! gmail ! com
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On Dec 27, 2007 7:30 AM, mouss <mlist.only@free.fr> wrote:

> Mihira Fernando wrote:
> > On Thu December 27 2007, Linux Addict wrote:
> >> On Dec 26, 2007 10:41 PM, Sahil Tandon <sahil@tandon.net> wrote:
> >>> * Linux Addict <linuxaddict7@gmail.com> [2007-12-26 22:32:19 -0500]:
> >>>> Ok. I adjusted the bounce_notify to get the bounces. I have 2 virtual
> >>>> domains both places I have the postmaster setup. But the both Virtual
> >>>> domains seems to be picking the postmaster of $mydomain for bounces.
> Is
> >>>> there anything else has to be configured.
> >>> Please stop top-posting and clarify your question.
> >>>
> >>>         http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting#Top-posting
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Sahil Tandon <sahil@tandon.net>
> >> Sorry about that. I didn't know. Thanks for being kind.
> >>
> >> I have 2 virtual domains. Both of them have postmaster user. But the
> >> bounces for the specific virtual domains are not routed to their
> >> respective postmaster, but are going to the postmaster of $mydomain.
> >> Wondering if any configuration is required.
> >>
>
> bounces generally go the original sender, not to postmaster. if you are
> thinking of bounce_notice_recipient, then reread the doc: it's a global
> address, and it should not be abused.
>

Ok. if its global address, then it makes sense.



>
> what is bounce_notify?


sorry. I meant notify_classes. I updated to the one below from default.
notify_classes = bounce, delay, policy, protocol, resource, software





>
>
>
>
> >
> > It'll be a lot easier to use a mailing list manager such as Mailman for
> this
> > type of thing. Mailman has this very feature where it will automatically
> > unsubscribe bouncing addresses while notifying the list manager of these
> > failures.
>
>
> when mail is sent by an application that do more than sending email,
> there is no easy way to integrate with mailman. This is certainly
> possible, but it may require some amount of work. There seems to be a
> need for some API (which may consist of documentation!) to integrate
> applications with mailing list managers. This way, application
> developpers will not need to reinvent the wheel. (Note that the problem
> here is not a system administration one: a sysadmin can certainly
> integrate whatever stuff with a list manager, provided he is given some
> way to access the mail addresses!)
>


Thanks Mouss. Just wondering what will best way to handle bounces and user
replies.

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On Dec 27, 2007 7:30 AM, mouss &lt;<a \
href="mailto:mlist.only@free.fr">mlist.only@free.fr</a>&gt; wrote:<br><div \
class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid \
rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div \
class="Ih2E3d">Mihira Fernando wrote:<br>&gt; On Thu December 27 2007, Linux Addict \
wrote:<br>&gt;&gt; On Dec 26, 2007 10:41 PM, Sahil Tandon &lt;<a \
href="mailto:sahil@tandon.net">sahil@tandon.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; * \
Linux Addict &lt; <a \
href="mailto:linuxaddict7@gmail.com">linuxaddict7@gmail.com</a>&gt; [2007-12-26 \
22:32:19 -0500]:<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Ok. I adjusted the bounce_notify to get the \
bounces. I have 2 virtual<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; domains both places I have the \
postmaster setup. But the both Virtual <br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; domains seems to be \
picking the postmaster of $mydomain for bounces. Is<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; there \
anything else has to be configured.<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; Please stop top-posting and \
clarify your question. <br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting#Top-posting" \
target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting#Top-posting</a><br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; \
--<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; Sahil Tandon &lt; <a \
href="mailto:sahil@tandon.net">sahil@tandon.net</a>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Sorry about that. \
I didn&#39;t know. Thanks for being kind.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; I have 2 virtual \
domains. Both of them have postmaster user. But the <br>&gt;&gt; bounces for the \
specific virtual domains are not routed to their<br>&gt;&gt; respective postmaster, \
but are going to the postmaster of $mydomain.<br>&gt;&gt; Wondering if any \
configuration is required.<br>&gt;&gt; <br><br></div>bounces generally go the \
original sender, not to postmaster. if you are<br>thinking of \
bounce_notice_recipient, then reread the doc: it&#39;s a global<br>address, and it \
should not be abused.<br></blockquote> <div><br>Ok. if its global address, then it \
makes sense.<br><br>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: \
1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>what \
is bounce_notify? </blockquote><div><br>sorry. I meant notify_classes. I updated to \
the one below from default.<br>notify_classes = bounce, delay, policy, protocol, \
resource, software<br><br><br><br>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; \
padding-left: 1ex;"> <br><div class="Ih2E3d"><br><br><br>&gt;<br>&gt; It&#39;ll be a \
lot easier to use a mailing list manager such as Mailman for this<br>&gt; type of \
thing. Mailman has this very feature where it will automatically<br>&gt; unsubscribe \
bouncing addresses while notifying the list manager of these <br>&gt; \
failures.<br><br><br></div>when mail is sent by an application that do more than \
sending email,<br>there is no easy way to integrate with mailman. This is \
certainly<br>possible, but it may require some amount of work. There seems to be a \
<br>need for some API (which may consist of documentation!) to \
integrate<br>applications with mailing list managers. This way, \
application<br>developpers will not need to reinvent the wheel. (Note that the \
problem<br>here is not a system administration one: a sysadmin can certainly \
<br>integrate whatever stuff with a list manager, provided he is given some<br>way to \
access the mail addresses!)<br></blockquote></div><br><br>Thanks Mouss. Just \
wondering what will best way to handle bounces and user replies. <br><br><br>



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