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Subject:    Re: [PLUG] Why folks using IRC are against "cool" and "new" features?
From:       Vishal Rao <vishalrao () gmail ! com>
Date:       2019-09-04 9:49:08
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On Wed, 4 Sep 2019 at 11:37, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <
sankarshan.mukhopadhyay@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 8:43 AM Tejas Sanap <sanap.tejas@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hey, folks!
> > I use plain IRC and for some reason that I can't explain, love it's
> > simplicity. I ran into a blog post today, that presented some
> > interesting perspectives on IRC and similar protocols (Matrix).
> >
> > https://drewdevault.com/2019/07/01/Absence-of-features-in-IRC.html
> >
> > I guess, IRC is an example of the "less is better, more is worse" case.
> > I would love to hear some of your point-of-views.
>
> The IRC/other-medium conversation is best looked at from the
> perspective of how software development in FOSS has evolved from
> communities to enterprises. In the latter, there are some distinct
> benefits to selection of tools that combine
> collaboration+notification+communication without much investments.
> Looking at IRC vs Slack in the same light of vi vs emacs is good
> method to while away time, but in the end, not generally productive.
>
> It would also be pertinent to consider that some of the large projects
> eg. Kubernetes etc adopt the established methods of their largest
> contributors and this weighs against the continuation of IRC
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IRC is kind of "stateless", right? Meaning you have to stay logged in to
not miss any messages? If I log out and log back in later on, I miss all
the messages that were posted in the interim? That is the main reason I
stopped using IRC and prefer email mailing lists or online forum discussion
platforms or things like Slack where you can see the messages even if you
log out and log back in later on.

-- 
"The World is a book, and those who do not travel read only a page." - St.
Augustine.

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<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" \
style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div></div><br><div \
class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 4 Sep 2019 at 11:37, \
Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay &lt;<a \
href="mailto:sankarshan.mukhopadhyay@gmail.com">sankarshan.mukhopadhyay@gmail.com</a>&gt; \
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at \
8:43 AM Tejas Sanap &lt;<a href="mailto:sanap.tejas@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">sanap.tejas@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br> &gt;<br>
&gt; Hey, folks!<br>
&gt; I use plain IRC and for some reason that I can&#39;t explain, love it&#39;s<br>
&gt; simplicity. I ran into a blog post today, that presented some<br>
&gt; interesting perspectives on IRC and similar protocols (Matrix).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href="https://drewdevault.com/2019/07/01/Absence-of-features-in-IRC.html" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://drewdevault.com/2019/07/01/Absence-of-features-in-IRC.html</a><br>
 &gt;<br>
&gt; I guess, IRC is an example of the &quot;less is better, more is worse&quot; \
case.<br> &gt; I would love to hear some of your point-of-views.<br>
<br>
The IRC/other-medium conversation is best looked at from the<br>
perspective of how software development in FOSS has evolved from<br>
communities to enterprises. In the latter, there are some distinct<br>
benefits to selection of tools that combine<br>
collaboration+notification+communication without much investments.<br>
Looking at IRC vs Slack in the same light of vi vs emacs is good<br>
method to while away time, but in the end, not generally productive.<br>
<br>
It would also be pertinent to consider that some of the large projects<br>
eg. Kubernetes etc adopt the established methods of their largest<br>
contributors and this weighs against the continuation of IRC<br>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" \
style="font-family:monospace,monospace">IRC is kind of &quot;stateless&quot;, right? \
Meaning you have to stay logged in to not miss any messages? If I log out and log \
back in later on, I miss all the messages that were posted in the interim? That is \
the main reason I stopped using IRC and prefer email mailing lists or online forum \
discussion platforms or things like Slack where you can see the messages even if you \
log out and log back in later on.</div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" \
class="gmail_signature">&quot;The World is a book, and those who do not travel read \
only a page.&quot; - St. Augustine.</div></div>



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