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Subject: Re: [PHP-DOC] Undocument PHP4
From: "Jesus M. Castagnetto" <jesus () castagnetto ! com>
Date: 2013-03-08 13:16:18
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We all live in the yellow submarine, yellow PHP, yellow PHP 5! :-)
Sorry could not resist, or is lack of coffee this early in the morning.
/me goes back the cave of the old farts
--
Jesus M. Castagnetto <jesus@castagnetto.com>
Web: http://www.castagnetto.com/
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 10:55 PM, marius adrian popa <mapopa@gmail.com>wrote:
> I will start with Interbase/Firebird functions cleanup
> also in the header i think we can remove the reference to php 4 like below
>
> PHP 4 >= 4.2.0,
>
> In fact also PHP5 can be removed , we all are on php5 already
> http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.ibase-delete-user.php
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Philip Olson <philip@roshambo.org> wrote:
> > Greetings Kalle, Hannes, everyone,
> >
> > PHP 5 should be treated as a first class citizen, so phrases like
> > "As of PHP 5, " should no longer exist. If they do then SQUASH
> > them! Muahahahaha!
> >
> > We have a page for all PHP 3 references but this might be too much
> > work for PHP 4, and we've already removed several so my gut says
> > no to PHP 4. Unless someone disagrees? :)
> >
> > I think the changelog entries should remain for all PHP versions
> > including PHP 4. They don't add clutter, and it helps people touch
> > code from the 90's. If applicable, please convert inline PHP 4
> > references (are there any left?) to changelog entries.
> >
> > As for PHP 4 extensions. I vote we remove them. The old XSLT and
> > objaggregation extensions comes to mind. Are there others? I
> > suspect you were referring to these. And leaving the OOP 4 section in
> > the appendix seems okay as it may also help the conversion process.
> >
> > tl;dr: Go for it!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Philip
> >
> >
> > On Mar 3, 2013, at 5:08 AM, Hannes Magnusson <hannes.magnusson@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Late 2009 we agreed on moving specific PHP4 into an appendix.
> >> As for inline PHP4 references, they should be dropped and/or replaced
> >> with changelog entries.
> >>
> >> Is there a specific PHP4 page/chapter thingy dingy you are thinking
> about?
> >>
> >> -Hannes
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Kalle Sommer Nielsen <kalle@php.net>
> wrote:
> >>> Howdy
> >>>
> >>> I think its time we consider looking at undocumenting PHP4 in the
> >>> manual, and this year we're surpassing 5 years after the end of life
> >>> (for critical updates).
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps keep the PHP4 > PHP5 migration guide however, but I think with
> >>> the redesign of php.net coming up, its well overdue we start
> >>> considering this, after all the old documentation is still available
> >>> in SVN (yes it should be hard to find documentation on such an old and
> >>> unsupported product).
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> regards,
> >>>
> >>> Kalle Sommer Nielsen
> >>> kalle@php.net
> >
>
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<div dir="ltr">We all live in the yellow submarine, yellow PHP, yellow PHP 5! \
:-)<div><br></div><div style>Sorry could not resist, or is lack of coffee this early \
in the morning.</div><div style><br></div><div style>/me goes back the cave of the \
old farts</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>--<br>Jesus M. Castagnetto <<a \
href="mailto:jesus@castagnetto.com">jesus@castagnetto.com</a>><br>Web: <a \
href="http://www.castagnetto.com/">http://www.castagnetto.com/</a></div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 10:55 PM, marius adrian popa \
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mapopa@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">mapopa@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">
I will start with Interbase/Firebird functions cleanup<br>
also in the header i think we can remove the reference to php 4 like below<br>
<br>
PHP 4 >= 4.2.0,<br>
<br>
In fact also PHP5 can be removed , we all are on php5 already<br>
<a href="http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.ibase-delete-user.php" \
target="_blank">http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.ibase-delete-user.php</a><br> \
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br> <br>
<br>
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Philip Olson <<a \
href="mailto:philip@roshambo.org">philip@roshambo.org</a>> wrote:<br> > \
Greetings Kalle, Hannes, everyone,<br> ><br>
> PHP 5 should be treated as a first class citizen, so phrases like<br>
> "As of PHP 5, " should no longer exist. If they do then SQUASH<br>
> them! Muahahahaha!<br>
><br>
> We have a page for all PHP 3 references but this might be too much<br>
> work for PHP 4, and we've already removed several so my gut says<br>
> no to PHP 4. Unless someone disagrees? :)<br>
><br>
> I think the changelog entries should remain for all PHP versions<br>
> including PHP 4. They don't add clutter, and it helps people touch<br>
> code from the 90's. If applicable, please convert inline PHP 4<br>
> references (are there any left?) to changelog entries.<br>
><br>
> As for PHP 4 extensions. I vote we remove them. The old XSLT and<br>
> objaggregation extensions comes to mind. Are there others? I<br>
> suspect you were referring to these. And leaving the OOP 4 section in<br>
> the appendix seems okay as it may also help the conversion process.<br>
><br>
> tl;dr: Go for it!<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> Philip<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Mar 3, 2013, at 5:08 AM, Hannes Magnusson <<a \
href="mailto:hannes.magnusson@gmail.com">hannes.magnusson@gmail.com</a>> \
wrote:<br> ><br>
>> Late 2009 we agreed on moving specific PHP4 into an appendix.<br>
>> As for inline PHP4 references, they should be dropped and/or replaced<br>
>> with changelog entries.<br>
>><br>
>> Is there a specific PHP4 page/chapter thingy dingy you are thinking \
about?<br> >><br>
>> -Hannes<br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Kalle Sommer Nielsen <<a \
href="mailto:kalle@php.net">kalle@php.net</a>> wrote:<br> >>> Howdy<br>
>>><br>
>>> I think its time we consider looking at undocumenting PHP4 in the<br>
>>> manual, and this year we're surpassing 5 years after the end of \
life<br> >>> (for critical updates).<br>
>>><br>
>>> Perhaps keep the PHP4 > PHP5 migration guide however, but I think \
with<br> >>> the redesign of <a href="http://php.net" \
target="_blank">php.net</a> coming up, its well overdue we start<br> >>> \
considering this, after all the old documentation is still available<br> >>> \
in SVN (yes it should be hard to find documentation on such an old and<br> \
>>> unsupported product).<br> >>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>> regards,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Kalle Sommer Nielsen<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:kalle@php.net">kalle@php.net</a><br>
><br>
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