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List:       php-windows
Subject:    Re: [PHP-WIN] RE: PHP vs JSP ?
From:       Tom Mathews <tpm () st ! com>
Date:       2001-01-30 14:09:22
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I agree with Simon

It is actually possible to work three tiers with PHP, but not so obviously as
JSP does.
The hit you take is performance, so it depends on what the application is
whether to use JSP or PHP.

Personally, for any e-commerce work I use PHP. It's very easy to get it hosted
and those few seconds difference in making the scripts immediately available
instead of caching them all could be the difference between a customer
continuing or hitting the back button.
For intranet applications, I've found a definite benefit in JSP (and dare I say
it ASP!). Performance is never such an issue, but scaleability might be, as is
the ability to use the windows API etc - you can of course write C modules for
PHP to do pretty well anything you fancy on any platform, but this may be too
much hassle for you.

Simon Willison wrote:

> I think it depends mainly on the scale of the project.  PHp and JSP can both
> be used to achieve exactly the same things (i.e dynamically generated pages,
> tied in with databases, user interaction etc) - it's a lot easier to learn
> and develop in PHP because you don't have to learn Java first.
>
> The big advantage of JSP (and if anyone knows better feel free to shoot me
> down on this one) is that it can be used within a 'three tiered' web server
> system.  PHP only really works on two tiers - you have your web server
> running PHP which talks to your database server.  JSP solutions such as
> Dynamo offer a full on triple tiered system with web servers pushing out
> content, application servers sitting in the middle generating dynamic pages
> and database servers on the back end.  This is hugely scalable, which the 2
> tiered PHP solution isn't.
>
> On the performance side a noticeable element of JSP is that the scripts are
> compiled the first time they are run, and then remain in memory as compiled
> code after that.  The result is that although the first request to a JSP
> script will take a whle, after that they will be lightning fast.
>
> In answer to your question then:  Both can be used to create powerful
> dynamic web pages, but PHP has the edge when it comes to speed and ease of
> development, while JSP is better if you are developing an extremely high
> load  application which will need to be scaled.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio Lopez [mailto:alopez@ingenia.es]
> Sent: 29 January 2001 11:08
> To: php-windows@lists.php.net
> Subject: PHP vs JSP ?
>
> PHP or JSP ?
>
> I need to know what language is better to develop powerful dinamic web
> pages.
>
> Thankyou!!
>
> ===================================================
> Antonio López Luna
> Ingeniería e Integración Avanzadas (Ingenia), S.A.
> Parque Tecnológico de Andalucía
> 29590  - Málaga (Spain)
>
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