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List:       php-internals
Subject:    Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: memcache, without a d, as in Venezuela
From:       AllenJB <php.lists () allenjb ! me ! uk>
Date:       2018-06-23 16:59:41
Message-ID: 18fddfb0-8c45-0fda-0833-c0984ae1bf7c () allenjb ! me ! uk
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Someone was asking about memcache vs memached on IRC the other day and I 
advised them the memcache extension looked abandoned based on the PECL 
page. Having 2 such similar extensions is confusing - It would also be 
nice if someone could document the major differences between the 2 
extensions somewhere to help users decide which they might want to select.

Remi mentioned over on the PECL list that the memcached extension relies 
on a library that's been abandoned since 2014 ( 
http://news.php.net/php.pecl.dev/15377 )

The websupport-sk 'memcache' repository is not linked to or mentioned on 
the pecl.php.net project page as far as I can see.

The documentation for 'memcache' on the php.net manual (linked from the 
documentation link on PECL) is not for the websupport-sk version - the 
readme on the websupport-sk repo mentions a "new API in 3.0" that uses a 
MemcachePool class which doesn't appear on the php.net documentation. I 
suspect it's likely there are other differences.

It looks like Pierre has been in discussion about merging/moving the 
websupport-sk repo back to PECL but progress appears to be slow / 
stalled - perhaps someone could prod Pierre or take up the reigns on 
this: https://github.com/websupport-sk/pecl-memcache/issues/4

At the very least if someone could add a header or obvious link to the 
pecl.php.net page and manual pointing to the websupport-sk project, that 
would help users in the mean time.

AllenJB

On 23/06/2018 15:16, Jan Ehrhardt wrote:
> Rowan Collins in php.internals (Fri, 22 Jun 2018 23:40:27 +0100):
>> However, it seems that the package without a d is actually abandoned.
>> The official PECL package was last released more than 5 years ago [3],
>> and the bug asking for PHP 7 compatibility is still open [4]. An
>> unofficial fork apparently supports PHP 7 [5] but it in turn hasn't had
>> a commit in 11 months, and has an open bug for 7.2 compatibility [6].
> It has some PR's, even a recent one by Remi Collet for 7.3
> compatibility.
> https://github.com/websupport-sk/pecl-memcache/pull/30
>
> The open bug for 7.2 compatibility seems to be open only because nobody
> bothered to close it.
>
>> - Is there any difference, other than API design, between the two
>> packages, which would merit seeking a new maintainer for memcache
>> (without a d)?
> The package without a d is AFAIK the only one that runs on Windows:
> https://github.com/websupport-sk/pecl-memcache/issues/23#issuecomment-358956029
> Client & server updates by 'nono303':
> https://www.apachelounge.com/viewtopic.php?t=7919
> https://github.com/nono303/PHP7-memcache-dll
>
>> - If not, should the package be officially marked "abandoned" or
>> "deprecated" in PECL, and in the PHP manual?
> That would not be a good solution for the (few) Windows users.


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