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Subject:    Re: [PHP-DEV] Attitude against distributions... (Was: JSON non-free license)
From:       Lester Caine <lester () lsces ! co ! uk>
Date:       2013-08-29 14:48:13
Message-ID: 521F5F2D.7070009 () lsces ! co ! uk
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Ondřej Surý wrote:
> Well, basically the pecl-json-c is now a default provider of JSON extension
> in Debian (and Fedora) and the downstream distributions (Ubuntu, RHEL, ...).

This is an area I've highlighted in the past ... While the PHP distributions 
define a 'core' set of modules, I don't know of any Linux distribution that 
actually duplicates it? I'm always having to check which 'modules' are loaded as 
many of what is called 'core' are not loaded by default. And that does not even 
get as far as adding pecl modules and in some cases how adding pear ones are 
handled.

The system has been broken for a long time, and it is getting more and more 
difficult to ensure that larger projects work 'out of the box'. Normally you 
have to say 'x is not loaded', and then make a guess at how that can be fixed on 
the particular distribution? And when ISP's are providing the PHP on shared 
hosting it's flavoured by the Linux distribution defaults.

In the past I've asked for better support for the modular approach rather than 
simply assuming everything 'core' is always compiled in. Handling this comes in 
that category and while in this particular case it would be optimal that both 
versions work identically, something is going to be broken or 'improved'?

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