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List:       pen-test
Subject:    Re: Is there a scam in Security Certifications
From:       xelerated <xelerated () gmail ! com>
Date:       2006-05-31 18:24:04
Message-ID: 9362a28f0605311124l7c096e24j1a41060c62bbbee6 () mail ! gmail ! com
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Good research.... alarming to say the least.

I have a CEH cert. now im bummed.

But I also took the class. I did like the class, and it did have some
value for me.
I dont regret taking it at all. It filled in a few gaps that I had.

Makes me wonder about going after any others though.



On 28 May 2006 05:56:45 -0000, adich71@yahoo.com <adich71@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I came across these posts recently at a forum
> 
> 
> There is more hype than substance in EC-Council.
> 
> 
> Check this link https://esos.state.nv.us/SOSServices/AnonymousAccess/CorpSearch/CorpDetails.aspx?CorpID=429981
>  
> 
> EC-Council or International Council of ECommerce Consultants is a Nevada \
> incorporated company and has NO office in New York as they claim. Pay them a visit \
> and there is absolutely NOTHING there. Any enquiry called is always met with one \
> response - please email. Try checking their claims before you invest in their \
> products 
> 
> EC-Council had announced an university earlier this year at Wyoming. They claim the \
> certifications would get credits for their masters program. Its a diploma paper \
> mill at best that will have its license revoked sooner or later as per the \
> legislature revoking all unaccredited programs. Check this link  \
> http://legisweb.state.wy.us/2006/Digest/SF0069.htm 
> 
> From their university website "EC-Council University is licensed by the State of \
> Wyoming under Wyo. Stat. 21-2-401 through 21-2-407 and neither the Department of \
> Education nor the Wyoming State Board of Education has accredited or endorsed any \
> course of study offered by EC-Council University" 
> 
> If you check their members list as well, you will realize that most of them are \
> ficticious or hardly involved. Renaming the only program they sell is not going to \
> fool the government for long I guess. 
> 
> Check this link http://www.eccouncil.org/cnda.htm and compare it with \
> http://www.eccouncil.org/CEH.htm - Its the same thing. What is the value for \
> existing CEH if they are going to certify some of the candidates as CNDA? 
> 
> Everything is the same. There is no alteration. Its not just money here... If some \
> of us are going to be CEH and some CNDA, wont one destroy the value of the other? \
> They are out to squeeze every last drop of money they can - think about it... To do \
> LPT, you must have attended training. Check their website \
> http://eccouncil.org/lpt/LPT-Course-Outline.htm 
> 
> Look at the cost - 2500 USD and see what you get in return
> 
> 
> Plaque with your name on it
> 
> LPT License card
> 
> Resource CD-ROMS
> 
> LPT T-shirts
> 
> LPT caps
> 
> LPT Certificate
> 
> LPT Lapel Pin
> 
> Membership ID
> 
> 
> The million dollar question - license for what???
> 
> 
> 
> Why dont we go to archive.org to the wayback machine (as shown in CEH course) and \
> look at EC-Council's site. ECSA / ECSP/ ECAD / LPT / etc have been announced more \
> than a year ago. Why are there no certifications coming out yet? 
> 
> The funniest part is that nobody else claims LPT is prestigious - nor is there an \
> industry demand or recognition. LPT will grant you the license (to do what???). \
> Please mail them and ask what the license stands for? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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