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From: "Job Cacka" <job () ccbox ! com>
Date: 2019-02-28 23:33:12
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Also Magical Jelly Bean Keyfinder used to work but I haven't used it in years.
For one-offs at remote sites we have had the user send us a photo of the COA in the \
past and that worked ok.
Job
From: Nathan Shelby [mailto:ntshelby@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 1:25 PM
To: Patch Management Mailing List
Subject: Re: [patchmanagement] Determine whether a Windows 7 computer also has \
Windows 10 upgrade rights
ShowKeyPlus can pull the info for you -- \
https://github.com/Superfly-Inc/ShowKeyPlus/releases
Nathan Shelby
ntshelby@gmail.com
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 12:49 PM Snow Pond Tech Group lists <lists@snowpondtech.com> \
wrote:
With Dell computers, if you take the SVCTAG and go to the support page, look at \
original configuration, it will tell you if it came with an upgrade license or not. \
Correct me if I am wrong: on the outside of the case, if there is no COA sticker for \
Windows 7, then there should be a generic "Windows Genuine" sticker or something like \
that on the case. That would mean either Windows 8 or 10 key injected into the BIOS. \
https://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/04/sln290004/windows-product-key-frequently-asked-questions-faq?lang=en
I don't know what HP, Lenovo, or other brands do as I mostly deal with Dell.
Regards,
Joshua Zukerman
Snow Pond Technology Group Inc.
Office 207-692-2415
_____
From: Kevin Dailey <kdailey@ncn.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 2:43:47 PM
To: Patch Management Mailing List
Subject: [patchmanagement] Determine whether a Windows 7 computer also has Windows 10 \
upgrade rights
Hello all,
I work for a company that manages hundreds of desktop computers for many companies. \
We're beginning the push to get all of our users up to Windows 10 since Windows 7 is \
reaching end of life in January.
I'm quite certain that many of the computers we manage, which are currently running \
Windows 7, came with Windows 10 upgrade rights and a product key which is valid for \
either Windows 7 or Windows 10. However, I'm struggling to find a reliable way to \
verify whether any individual computer has a valid Windows 10 key. In most cases, we \
don't have the original box or receipt or any documentation that came with the \
computer. I have serial numbers, etc., but I need a reliable method of knowing \
whether a computer can be upgraded to Windows 10 without having to purchase a new \
license.
I'm aware of various software programs available which are capable of displaying the \
product key which is held in BIOS of OEM computers, but they don't say whether it is \
a Windows 7 or Windows 10 product key. It's my understanding that if a computer came \
with Windows 10 upgrade rights, then the product key is actually a Windows 10 key, \
but is valid to activate either Windows 7 or Windows 10. However, some computers may \
only have a Windows 7 key in BIOS, which is not capable of being activated on Windows \
10.
I don't want to charge a customer for travel time and onsite labor to upgrade their \
computer, and then find out the product key in BIOS is only valid for Windows 7. Most \
computers in recent years don't come with a COA or any external indication whether it \
includes a Windows 10 license.
Sorry for being long-winded. I just hope to properly explain my question. Any advice \
would be greatly appreciated.
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class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>Also Magical Jelly \
Bean Keyfinder used to work but I haven't used it in years. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier \
New";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>For one-offs at \
remote sites we have had the user send us a photo of the COA in the past and that \
worked ok. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier \
New";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier \
New";color:#1F497D'>Job<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier \
New";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Nathan Shelby \
[mailto:ntshelby@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 28, 2019 1:25 \
PM<br><b>To:</b> Patch Management Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: \
[patchmanagement] Determine whether a Windows 7 computer also has Windows 10 upgrade \
rights<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal>ShowKeyPlus can pull the info for you -- <a \
href="https://github.com/Superfly-Inc/ShowKeyPlus/releases">https://github.com/Superfly-Inc/ShowKeyPlus/releases</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal \
style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Nathan Shelby<br><a href="mailto:ntshelby@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">ntshelby@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p \
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p \
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Feb 28, \
2019 at 12:49 PM Snow Pond Tech Group lists <<a \
href="mailto:lists@snowpondtech.com">lists@snowpondtech.com</a>> \
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC \
1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div \
id="gmail-m_5720359699576494409divtagdefaultwrapper"><p \
style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span \
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>With Dell computers, if you \
take the SVCTAG and go to the support page, look at original configuration, it will \
tell you if it came with an upgrade license or not. Correct me if I am wrong: on the \
outside of the case, if there is no COA sticker for Windows 7, then there should be a \
generic "Windows Genuine" sticker or something like that on the case. That \
would mean either Windows 8 or 10 key injected into the BIOS. <a \
href="https://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/04/sln290004/windows-product-key-frequently-asked-questions-faq?lang=en" \
target="_blank" id="gmail-m_5720359699576494409LPlnk713761">https://www.dell.com/suppo \
rt/article/us/en/04/sln290004/windows-product-key-frequently-asked-questions-faq?lang=en</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p \
style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span \
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p \
style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span \
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I don't know what HP, Lenovo, \
or other brands do as I mostly deal with Dell.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p \
style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span \
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div \
id="gmail-m_5720359699576494409Signature"><div \
id="gmail-m_5720359699576494409divtagdefaultwrapper"><p \
style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span \
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p \
style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span \
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p \
style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span \
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Joshua \
Zukerman<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span \
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Snow Pond Technology Group \
Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span \
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Office \
207-692-2415<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center \
style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><div \
id="gmail-m_5720359699576494409divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=MsoNormal><b><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> Kevin Dailey \
<<a href="mailto:kdailey@ncn.net" \
target="_blank">kdailey@ncn.net</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 28, 2019 \
2:43:47 PM<br><b>To:</b> Patch Management Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> \
[patchmanagement] Determine whether a Windows 7 computer also has Windows 10 upgrade \
rights</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p \
class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p \
class=gmail-m5720359699576494409xmsonormal>Hello all,<o:p></o:p></p><p \
class=gmail-m5720359699576494409xx-hidden-focus>I work for a company that manages \
hundreds of desktop computers for many companies. We're beginning the push to get all \
of our users up to Windows 10 since Windows 7 is reaching end of life in January. \
<o:p></o:p></p><p>I'm quite certain that many of the computers we manage, which are \
currently running Windows 7, came with Windows 10 upgrade rights and a product key \
which is valid for either Windows 7 or Windows 10. However, I'm struggling to find a \
reliable way to verify whether any individual computer has a valid Windows 10 key. In \
most cases, we don't have the original box or receipt or any documentation that came \
with the computer. I have serial numbers, etc., but I need a reliable method of \
knowing whether a computer can be upgraded to Windows 10 without having to purchase a \
new license. <o:p></o:p></p><p>I'm aware of various software programs available which \
are capable of displaying the product key which is held in BIOS of OEM computers, but \
they don't say whether it is a Windows 7 or Windows 10 product key. It's my \
understanding that if a computer came with Windows 10 upgrade rights, then the \
product key is actually a Windows 10 key, but is valid to activate either Windows 7 \
or Windows 10. However, some computers may only have a Windows 7 key in BIOS, which \
is not capable of being activated on Windows 10.<o:p></o:p></p><p>I don't want to \
charge a customer for travel time and onsite labor to upgrade their computer, and \
then find out the product key in BIOS is only valid for Windows 7. Most computers in \
recent years don't come with a COA or any external indication whether it includes a \
Windows 10 license. <o:p></o:p></p><p \
class=gmail-m5720359699576494409xx-hidden-focus>Sorry for being long-winded. I just \
hope to properly explain my question. Any advice would be greatly \
appreciated.<o:p></o:p></p><p \
class=gmail-m5720359699576494409xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>
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