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From: Roy Adams <roy () racs ! com ! au>
Date: 2018-05-27 22:48:21
Message-ID: CAK8EJS0Ed981wpe2sngWhwEigGF3eJ_E7NE8uPoyGYgnQb8KjA () mail ! gmail ! com
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Grrr, no sooner did I say that and I found the below post..
Time for some long folder path name testing as noted by Espi
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/a5e2c921-e4a3-408d-97e2-e5f2e93de5a8 \
/1803-cant-count-folder-trees-with-long-filenames-can-someone-confirm?forum=win10itprogeneral
Kindly,
ROY ADAMS* | *P 07 3040 5010 | Web: http://www.racs.com.au/ | Wiki:
https://ex.racs.com.au:444/ | eMail: mailto:roy@racs.com.au
<roy@racs.com.au>
Please never upgrade to the latest Windows 10 - You don't need the hassle,
and I don't need the work.
If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait
until you hire an amateur - Red Adair.
Life is a journey through a series of adventures.. Live them, love them,
hate them, but never give up on your dreams, desires, and goals.
On Mon, 28 May 2018 at 08:41, Roy Adams <roy@racs.com.au> wrote:
> That's all I needed, some reassurance I was not going nuts.
>
> My Google-Fu still cannot find others with similar issues,
> Might me time to raise this with Microsoft.
>
> I bet many are affected but just don't to top level folder *Right-Click /
> Properties* much
>
>
> Kindly,
>
> ROY ADAMS* | *P 07 3040 5010 | Web: http://www.racs.com.au/ | Wiki:
> https://ex.racs.com.au:444/ | eMail: mailto:roy@racs.com.au
> <roy@racs.com.au>
> Please never upgrade to the latest Windows 10 - You don't need the hassle,
> and I don't need the work.
> If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait
> until you hire an amateur - Red Adair.
> Life is a journey through a series of adventures.. Live them, love them,
> hate them, but never give up on your dreams, desires, and goals.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 28 May 2018 at 01:35, Gunaseelan Madhavan <gmmails1977@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello All,
> >
> >
> >
> > I am facing the same issue with Western Digital External HDD. Root folder
> > showing 75GB whereas subfolders size are 330 GB.
> >
> >
> >
> > HDD Model – Western Digital My Passport (USB3 portable 2.5" drive that
> > powers itself from the USB port on the laptop).
> >
> >
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Gunaseelan Madhavan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *From: *Roy Adams <roy@racs.com.au>
> > *Sent: *27 May 2018 01:58
> > *To: *Patch Management Mailing List
> > <patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org>
> > *Subject: *Re: [patchmanagement] Windows 10 build 1803 not adding
> > subfolders inroot folder properties on a portable drive
> >
> >
> >
> > But only on Windows 10 build 1803? other windows editions see it ok
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll try to check.... easiest to dump out a dir /a /s 1> C:\File.txt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kindly,
> >
> >
> >
> > ROY ADAMS* | *P 07 3040 5010 | Web: http://www.racs.com.au/ | Wiki:
> > https://ex.racs.com.au:444/ | eMail: mailto:roy@racs.com.au
> > <roy@racs.com.au>
> >
> > Please never upgrade to the latest Windows 10 - You don't need the
> > hassle, and I don't need the work.
> > If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait
> > until you hire an amateur - Red Adair.
> >
> > Life is a journey through a series of adventures.. Live them, love them,
> > hate them, but never give up on your dreams, desires, and goals.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 27 May 2018 at 08:02, Micheal Espinola Jr <
> > michealespinola@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I haven't heard of this, and I don't observe it on any of my 1803 systems
> > with large data drives. Do you have any stats on how deep the directory
> > tree's go, and/or how long some of the full directory/file names are? My
> > hunch would be that there is either deep or long name nesting going on, and
> > that a bug in the GUI is chocking on it. Maybe even an odd character.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Espi
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 11:28 PM Roy Adams <roy@racs.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> >
> >
> > A friend contacted me this morning with a weird issue - initially I
> > didn't tweak to it being 1803.
> >
> > He has a folder "Stuff" on G:\
> >
> > He right clicks on this, then chooses properties and it shows 2.92GB, but
> > the folder ACtUALLY has 38GB+ - but in subfolders of G:\Stuff
> >
> > I ran a dos prompt and did a dir G:\Stuff /a and sure enough 38GB+
> >
> >
> >
> > Did a chkdsk and permissions reset, same issue.
> >
> > Checked Windows version and sure enough, it was 1803.
> >
> >
> >
> > Connected the same drive to a 1709 build and folder properties is 38GB+
> >
> > Moved the drive back to 1803 and folder properties is 2.92 for G:\Stuff
> >
> >
> >
> > Can anyone else see this behaviour in Windows 10 build 1803 file explorer?
> >
> > FYI, I tested this also with FreeCommander XE - same problem - no doubt
> > indicating it's a shell DLL bug in my mind
> >
> >
> >
> > Again, this was a Toshiba USB3 portable 2.5" drive that powers itself
> > from the USB port on the laptop.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kindly,
> >
> >
> >
> > ROY ADAMS* | *P 07 3040 5010 | Web: http://www.racs.com.au/ | Wiki:
> > https://ex.racs.com.au:444/ | eMail: mailto:roy@racs.com.au
> > <roy@racs.com.au>
> >
> > If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait
> > until you hire an amateur - Red Adair.
> >
> > Life is a journey through a series of adventures.. Live them, love them,
> > hate them, but never give up on your dreams, desires, and goals.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Grrr, no sooner did I say that \
and I found the below post..</div><div class="gmail_default" \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Time for some long folder path \
name testing as noted by Espi</div><div class="gmail_default" \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" \
class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div \
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dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font color="#000000" \
face="verdana, sans-serif" size="2"><a \
href="https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/a5e2c921-e4a3-408d-97e2-e5f2e9 \
3de5a8/1803-cant-count-folder-trees-with-long-filenames-can-someone-confirm?forum=win1 \
0itprogeneral">https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/a5e2c921-e4a3-408d-97 \
e2-e5f2e93de5a8/1803-cant-count-folder-trees-with-long-filenames-can-someone-confirm?forum=win10itprogeneral</a></font><br></div><div><font \
color="#000000" face="verdana, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></div><div><span \
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></span></div><div><span \
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Kindly,</span><br></div><div><span \
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></span></div><div><span \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:7.5pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">ROY \
ADAMS<b> | </b></span><span \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:7.5pt;color:gray">P</span><span \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:7.5pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> <a \
value="+61730405010" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">07 3040 5010</a> | </span><span \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:7.5pt;color:gray">Web:</span><span \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:7.5pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> <a \
href="http://www.racs.com.au/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" \
target="_blank">http://www.racs.com.au/</a> | </span><span \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:7.5pt;color:gray">Wiki:</span><span \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:7.5pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> <a \
href="https://ex.racs.com.au:444/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" \
target="_blank">https://ex.racs.com.au:444/</a> | e</span><span \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:7.5pt;color:gray">Mail:</span><span \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:7.5pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> <a \
href="mailto:roy@racs.com.au" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" \
target="_blank">mailto:roy@racs.com.au</a></span><br></div><div><font color="#eeeeee" \
face="verdana, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10px">Please never upgrade to the \
latest Windows 10 - You don't need the hassle, and I don't need the \
work.</span></font><br><font color="#eeeeee" face="verdana, sans-serif"><span \
style="font-size:10px">If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do \
the job, wait until you hire an amateur - Red Adair.</span></font></div><div><span \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:7.5pt"><font color="#eeeeee">Life is \
a journey through a series of adventures.. Live them, love them, hate them, but never \
give up on your dreams, desires, and goals.</font></span></div><div><span \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:7.5pt"><font \
color="#eeeeee"><br></font></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><br><div \
class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, 28 May 2018 at 08:41, Roy Adams <<a \
href="mailto:roy@racs.com.au">roy@racs.com.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">That's all I needed, some \
reassurance I was not going nuts.</div><div \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">My Google-Fu still cannot find \
others with similar issues,</div><div \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Might me time to raise this \
with Microsoft.</div><div \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I bet many are affected but \
just don't to top level folder *Right-Click / Properties* much</div><div><div \
dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-1036148190853575932gmail_signature"><div \
dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div \
dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div \
dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><span \
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></span></div><div><span \
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></span></div><div><span \
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Kindly,</span><br></div><div><span \
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></span></div><div><span \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:7.5pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">ROY \
ADAMS<b> | </b></span><span \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:7.5pt;color:gray">P</span><span \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:7.5pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> <a \
value="+61730405010" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">07 3040 5010</a> | </span><span \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:7.5pt;color:gray">Web:</span><span \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:7.5pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> <a \
href="http://www.racs.com.au/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" \
target="_blank">http://www.racs.com.au/</a> | </span><span \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:7.5pt;color:gray">Wiki:</span><span \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:7.5pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> <a \
href="https://ex.racs.com.au:444/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" \
target="_blank">https://ex.racs.com.au:444/</a> | e</span><span \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:7.5pt;color:gray">Mail:</span><span \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:7.5pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> <a \
href="mailto:roy@racs.com.au" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" \
target="_blank">mailto:roy@racs.com.au</a></span><br></div><div><font color="#eeeeee" \
face="verdana, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10px">Please never upgrade to the \
latest Windows 10 - You don't need the hassle, and I don't need the \
work.</span></font><br><font color="#eeeeee" face="verdana, sans-serif"><span \
style="font-size:10px">If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do \
the job, wait until you hire an amateur - Red Adair.</span></font></div><div><span \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:7.5pt"><font color="#eeeeee">Life is \
a journey through a series of adventures.. Live them, love them, hate them, but never \
give up on your dreams, desires, and goals.</font></span></div><div><span \
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:7.5pt"><font \
color="#eeeeee"><br></font></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div \
class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, 28 May 2018 at 01:35, Gunaseelan Madhavan \
<<a href="mailto:gmmails1977@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">gmmails1977@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-IN"><div \
class="gmail-m_-1036148190853575932m_4121225625442365600WordSection1"><p \
class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt">Hello All,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p \
class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p \
class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt">I am facing the same issue with \
Western Digital External HDD. Root folder showing 75GB whereas subfolders size are \
330 GB.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12pt">HDD Model – Western Digital My Passport (USB3 portable \
2.5" drive that powers itself from the USB port on the \
laptop).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12pt">Kind regards<u></u><u></u></span></p><p \
class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt">Gunaseelan \
Madhavan<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p \
class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div \
style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid \
rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal" \
style="border:none;padding:0cm"><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:roy@racs.com.au" \
target="_blank">Roy Adams</a><br><b>Sent: </b>27 May 2018 01:58<br><b>To: </b><a \
href="mailto:patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org" target="_blank">Patch \
Management Mailing List</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [patchmanagement] Windows 10 build \
1803 not adding subfolders inroot folder properties on a portable drive</p></div><p \
class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">But only on Windows 10 build \
1803? other windows editions see it ok</span><span \
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p \
class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><u></u> \
<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">I'll try to check.... \
easiest to dump out a dir /a /s 1> \
C:\File.txt<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p \
class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> \
<u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">Kindly,</span></p></div><div><p \
class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">ROY \
ADAMS<b> | </b></span><span \
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:gray">P</span><span \
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> 07 3040 \
5010 | </span><span \
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:gray">Web:</span><span \
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> <a \
href="http://www.racs.com.au/" target="_blank"><span \
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">http://www.racs.com.au/</span></a> | </span><span \
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:gray">Wiki:</span><span \
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> <a \
href="https://ex.racs.com.au:444/" target="_blank"><span \
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">https://ex.racs.com.au:444/</span></a> | e</span><span \
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:gray">Mail:</span><span \
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> <a \
href="mailto:roy@racs.com.au" target="_blank"><span \
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">mailto:roy@racs.com.au</span></a></span></p></div><div><p \
class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(238,238,238)">Please \
never upgrade to the latest Windows 10 - You don't need the hassle, and I don't need \
the work.</span><br><span \
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(238,238,238)">If you \
think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an \
amateur - Red Adair.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(238,238,238)">Life is \
a journey through a series of adventures.. Live them, love them, hate them, but never \
give up on your dreams, desires, and goals.</span></p></div><div><p \
class="MsoNormal"><u></u> \
<u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p \
class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> \
<u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, 27 May 2018 at 08:02, Micheal \
Espinola Jr <<a href="mailto:michealespinola@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">michealespinola@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote \
style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p \
class="MsoNormal">I haven't heard of this, and I don't observe it on any of \
my 1803 systems with large data drives. Do you have any stats on how deep the \
directory tree's go, and/or how long some of the full directory/file names are? \
My hunch would be that there is either deep or long name nesting going on, and that a \
bug in the GUI is chocking on it. Maybe even an odd character.</p><div><div><p \
class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all"></p><div><div><div><p \
class="MsoNormal">--<br>Espi</p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> \
<u></u></p></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> \
<u></u></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p \
class="MsoNormal">On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 11:28 PM Roy Adams <<a \
href="mailto:roy@racs.com.au" target="_blank">roy@racs.com.au</a>> \
wrote:</p></div><blockquote \
style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm \
6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Hi \
All,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><u></u> \
<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">A friend contacted me this \
morning with a weird issue - initially I didn't tweak to it being \
1803.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">He has a folder \
"Stuff" on G:\<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p \
class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">He \
right clicks on this, then chooses properties and it shows 2.92GB, but the folder \
ACtUALLY has 38GB+ - but in subfolders of \
G:\Stuff<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">I ran a dos prompt and did a \
dir G:\Stuff /a and sure enough 38GB+<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p \
class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><u></u> \
<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Did a chkdsk and permissions \
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