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Subject:    RE:[patchmanagement] Monthy Rollup no longer listed as installed
From:       Steve Yates <steve () teamITS ! com>
Date:       2017-05-23 19:43:15
Message-ID: f8cda64743b449989cafce2e28ded9c5 () ITS-SERVER-1 ! its ! local
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Hi Erich,

	If you're asking about my email I was quoting the MS page ("includes fixes from the \
latest Security-only update").  As I understand it the security-only updates only \
have that month's fixes not all prior. (see thread "Security Only Quality Updates are \
not Cumulative?")

	Agreed it's confusing. :)  Each kind of update seems to have its own rules.

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Steve Yates
ITS, Inc.

From: Von Kelsch, Erich [mailto:Erich.VonKelsch@Staples.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:57 PM
To: Patch Management Mailing List <patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org>
Subject: RE:[patchmanagement] Monthy Rollup no longer listed as installed

Brian,

As I understand it, the monthly preview contains ALL the updates from the Monthly \
rollup AND the non-security updates that will be deployed the next month.  Not sure \
where the belief that the preview did not contain security updates came from, \
although the whole set is nothing if not confusing.

Erich

From: Brian Giguere [mailto:Brian@securebiznetworks.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 5:09 PM
To: Patch Management Mailing List \
                <mailto:patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org>
Subject: [patchmanagement] Monthy Rollup no longer listed as installed

Trying to make sure I understand Microsoft's wording regarding Monthly Rollups vs \
Preview of Monthly Rollups.  We were allowing Preview of Monthly Rollups (not my \
call, and we are no longer doing so) to be installed on machines, but it seems when \
one of these is installed, it removes the Monthly Rollup from the installed updates \
list (still shows in the history though).

For example, a machine returns back that KB4019264 is installed.  A few days later, \
it is saying it is not, and KB4019265 is now listed as being installed.  From my \
understanding, the Preview Rollup contains NO security updates that were included in \
Monthly Rollup from that same month.  Although the wording from MS is a bit \
confusing:

"An additional monthly rollup containing a preview of new non-security fixes that \
will be included in the next monthly rollup, as well as fixes from all previous \
monthly rollup.  This can also be called the "preview rollup.""

But then each Preview Rollup KB article states "This non-security update includes \
improvements and fixes that were a part of Monthly Rollup."

Basically, all I need to know is if a machine has the Preview Monthly Rollup \
installed, is that machine patched security wise with the current month's patches?  \
If a machine never had the Monthly Rollup installed, and the Preview Rollup got \
installed, would the machine be up to date security wise?


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