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From: "Job Cacka" <job () ccbox ! com>
Date: 2016-06-30 23:06:46
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Ha! Julian had a link for that a few weeks back. J
Job
From: Triscari, Basil [mailto:TriscariB@members1st.org]
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From: Steve Yates [mailto:steve@teamITS.com]
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Subject: RE: [patchmanagement] Somewhat OT: ZD Net: Mystery file in preview
build hints at Windows 10 subscriptions by Ed Bott for The Ed Bott Report
It kind of has a built in subscription plan. At $150 (or whatever) per new
PC and a 5-10 year life that's $15 to $30 per year. Even better the cost is
hidden/embedded in the cost of a new PC.
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Steve Yates
ITS, Inc.
From: Job Cacka [mailto:job@ccbox.com]
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Subject: RE: [patchmanagement] Somewhat OT: ZD Net: Mystery file in preview
build hints at Windows 10 subscriptions by Ed Bott for The Ed Bott Report
I believe subscriptions will return because it is consistent with MS design
goals. PAAS, or OS as a service works well with a subscription plan. I think
it makes sense because of the way they are promoting the OS
updates/upgrades. Also, it is consistent with the Office 365 model which
many of you are familiar with first hand. Will it be the only option?
Probably not.
Is there a conspiracy? Not unless you include Apple, Adobe, AutoCAD,
Solidworks, etc, etc, etc. Most Software companies want you to "rent" the
latest version of their software. They don't want to support old crusty
software, and they don't want to risk losing you to the competition.
How about a MS portal/client to install, upgrade, assign, distribute, and
purchase MS OS, software, CALs, etc? It could work with a local client and
your DC to make sure you were covering all of your scenarios. It would
streamline all of the current licensing, and distribution headache.
Job Cacka
From: Phantom of the Mobile PhotM [mailto:phantom.of.the.mobile@live.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:48 AM
To: Patch Management Mailing List
Subject: [patchmanagement] Somewhat OT: ZD Net: Mystery file in preview
build hints at Windows 10 subscriptions by Ed Bott for The Ed Bott Report
Hi Folks,
Before anybody gets to bent out of shape, this appears to be mostly for
Enterprise for now....
http://www.zdnet.com/article/mystery-file-in-preview-build-hints-at-windows-
10-subscriptions/?ftag=TRE17cfd61
<http://www.zdnet.com/article/mystery-file-in-preview-build-hints-at-windows
-10-subscriptions/?ftag=TRE17cfd61&bhid=25188063776164312110831518753466>
&bhid=25188063776164312110831518753466
With the official launch of the Windows 10 Anniversary Update less than a
month away, recent preview builds have been downright boring, with no new
features to write about. But hold on a minute. What's this Windows Upgrade
to Subscription tool?
<http://www.zdnet.com/meet-the-team/us/ed-bott/> Image removed by sender.
Ed Bott
By <http://www.zdnet.com/meet-the-team/us/ed-bott/> Ed Bott for
<http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/> The Ed Bott Report | June 30, 2016 --
13:01 GMT (06:01 PDT) | Topic: <http://www.zdnet.com/topic/windows-10/>
Windows 10
The latest preview build of Windows 10 comes with its own mystery.
Buried in the System32 folder of build 14376, alongside 590 other .exe
files, is a very recent addition with a name guaranteed to raise eyebrows:
UpgradeSubscription.exe.
In the file's properties, it's described as the Windows Upgrade to
Subscription Tool, and its date and time stamp corresponds to other
administrative tools in the same build.
See for yourself:
Image removed by sender. windows-upgrade-to-subscription-tool.jpg
This mystery file is new in Windows 10 preview build 14376.
The presence of that file is certain to ignite speculation among conspiracy
theorists who were convinced in the run-up to the initial release of Windows
10 that the year-long free upgrade offer would turn into some sort of paid
subscription.
When I asked Microsoft about this file, I got this response:
The Windows Upgrade to Subscription tool, found in the latest Windows
Insider builds, helps to manage certain volume licensing upgrades from
Windows 10 Pro Anniversary Update to Windows 10 Enterprise. This binary file
is not associated with the free consumer upgrade offering nor is it
applicable to consumer Windows editions.
That seems to be a pretty firm denial, but when I pressed for additional
details I got a polite but firm, "No further comment."
Running this mysterious tool does nothing, and inspecting the file itself
seems to confirm that it's related to enterprise licensing, with one
tantalizing reference to a registry value called AllowWindowsSubscription.
Poking around elsewhere in build 14376 turns up only a few references to
servicing packages named
Microsoft-Client-License-Platform-Upgrade-Subscription-Package.
I remain convinced, as I wrote earlier this year, that
<http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-subscriptions-arent-happening-heres
-why/> Windows 10 subscriptions aren't happening for consumer and small
business versions. But something I wrote in that post bears repeating here:
[L]arge enterprises, including corporate customers and government agencies,
actually have been paying for Windows subscriptions for many years, thanks
to a volume licensing program called Software Assurance. That annual fee
gives them a slew of enterprise features and usage rights that consumers and
small businesses don't need and certainly won't pay for.
The trouble with Microsoft's Volume Licensing program is that it's
devilishly complicated and pretty much out of reach of smaller companies
that could benefit from the features in Windows Enterprise edition but don't
have the expertise or the size to justify an Enterprise Agreement.
In fact, I suspect that this option might not be new after all. Several
years ago, an early release of Intune, Microsoft's cloud-based management
platform, included an add-on upgrade license for Windows Enterprise edition
for an additional monthly subscription fee of $5 on top of the $6 cost of
the Intune license.
Most of the information related to the product has vanished from Microsoft's
website, but I did find one archived PDF file from 2012 that confirms those
details:
Image removed by sender. windows-subscription-2012.jpg
The option for Windows subscriptions was available in 2012 but was retired
in 2015.
In support forums early last year, Microsoft confirmed that the option to
purchase an Intune subscription with the Windows 8.1 Enterprise OS has been
<https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/9a6f2205-c7d0-4338-9d78-3
f1f5ecb0b08/subscription-option-gone-for-intune-with-81-enterprise-os?forum=
microsoftintuneprod> "retired," and the alternative is an Enterprise
Agreement, only suitable for companies with 250 or more employees.
In another document from late 2012, I found this description of the
Microsoft Online Subscription Program (MOSP):
The Microsoft Online Subscription Program (MOSP) is a subscription-based
Microsoft Volume Licensing program for organizations with five or more users
that want to subscribe to, activate, provision, and maintain services
seamlessly and affordably. MOSP is very flexible and is ideal for any type
of organization that wants to add online services to its portfolio.
Most of the products on that list are firmly established subscription
offerings now: Office 365, the Azure platform, and Microsoft Dynamics CRM
Online. The Windows Enterprise offering as part of the Intune management
suite probably seemed like a good idea at the time. But since then, Intune
has become more focused on mobile device management, and that role isn't
really a good fit with Windows desktop licensing.
There's clearly a market for a subscription upgrade that gives small
companies access to Enterprise features. But for now, at least, we'll have
to wait for an official announcement (or more leaks) about what this
mysterious file is for.
I suspect we'll know before August 2.
Best Regards,
Crysta
PhotM
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class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>Ha! Julian had a \
link for that a few weeks back. </span><span \
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[mailto:TriscariB@members1st.org] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 30, 2016 2:27 \
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[patchmanagement] Somewhat OT: ZD Net: Mystery file in preview build hints at Windows \
10 subscriptions by Ed Bott for The Ed Bott \
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Steve Yates [<a \
href="mailto:steve@teamITS.com">mailto:steve@teamITS.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> \
Thursday, June 30, 2016 5:14 PM<br><b>To:</b> Patch Management Mailing \
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class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>It \
kind of has a built in subscription plan. At $150 (or whatever) per new PC and \
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RE: [patchmanagement] Somewhat OT: ZD Net: Mystery file in preview build hints at \
Windows 10 subscriptions by Ed Bott for The Ed Bott \
Report<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier \
New";color:#1F497D'>I believe subscriptions will return because it is consistent with \
MS design goals. PAAS, or OS as a service works well with a subscription plan. I \
think it makes sense because of the way they are promoting the OS updates/upgrades. \
Also, it is consistent with the Office 365 model which many of you are familiar with \
first hand. Will it be the only option? Probably not. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier \
New";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>Is there a \
conspiracy? Not unless you include Apple, Adobe, AutoCAD, Solidworks, etc, etc, etc. \
Most Software companies want you to “rent” the latest version of their \
software. They don’t want to support old crusty software, and they don’t \
want to risk losing you to the competition. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier \
New";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>How about a MS \
portal/client to install, upgrade, assign, distribute, and purchase MS OS, software, \
CALs, etc? It could work with a local client and your DC to make sure you were \
covering all of your scenarios. It would streamline all of the current licensing, and \
distribution headache.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier \
New";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>Job \
Cacka<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
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New";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div \
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class=MsoNormal><b><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Phantom of the Mobile \
PhotM [<a href="mailto:phantom.of.the.mobile@live.com">mailto:phantom.of.the.mobile@live.com</a>] \
<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:48 AM<br><b>To:</b> Patch Management \
Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> [patchmanagement] Somewhat OT: ZD Net: Mystery file \
in preview build hints at Windows 10 subscriptions by Ed Bott for The Ed Bott \
Report<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p \
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hi Folks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p \
class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Before anybody gets \
to bent out of shape, this appears to be mostly for Enterprise for \
now....<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span \
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a \
href="http://www.zdnet.com/article/mystery-file-in-preview-build-hints-at-windows-10-subscriptions/?ftag=TRE17cfd61&bhid=25188063776164312110831518753466" \
target="_blank">http://www.zdnet.com/article/mystery-file-in-preview-build-hints-at-wi \
ndows-10-subscriptions/?ftag=TRE17cfd61&bhid=25188063776164312110831518753466</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><h1 \
style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;mso-line-height-alt:12.5pt;background:white'><span \
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auto !important'><span \
style='font-size:21.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#080E14'>With the \
official launch of the Windows 10 Anniversary Update less than a month away, recent \
preview builds have been downright boring, with no new features to write about. But \
hold on a minute. What's this Windows Upgrade to Subscription \
tool?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal \
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1.0pt;padding:0in;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=40 height=40 \
id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D1D2E9.66ABE7D0" alt="Image removed by \
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#080E14'>By <a \
href="http://www.zdnet.com/meet-the-team/us/ed-bott/"><span \
style='color:#1174C7;text-decoration:none'>Ed Bott</span></a> for <a \
href="http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/"><span \
style='color:#1174C7;text-decoration:none'>The Ed Bott \
Report</span></a> | June 30, 2016 -- 13:01 GMT (06:01 PDT) | \
Topic: <a href="http://www.zdnet.com/topic/windows-10/"><span \
style='color:#1174C7;text-decoration:none'>Windows \
10</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal \
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style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#080E14'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:15.75pt;line-height:22.5pt;background:white;-webkit-user-select: \
auto !important'><span \
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#080E14'>The latest \
preview build of Windows 10 comes with its own mystery.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:15.75pt;line-height:22.5pt;background:white;-webkit-user-select: \
auto !important'><span \
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#080E14'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:15.75pt;line-height:22.5pt;background:white;-webkit-user-select: \
auto !important'><span \
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#080E14'>Buried in the \
System32 folder of build 14376, alongside 590 other .exe files, is a very recent \
addition with a name guaranteed to raise eyebrows: \
UpgradeSubscription.exe.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal \
style='margin-bottom:15.75pt;line-height:22.5pt;background:white;-webkit-user-select: \
auto !important'><span \
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#080E14'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:15.75pt;line-height:22.5pt;background:white;-webkit-user-select: \
auto !important'><span \
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#080E14'>In the file's \
properties, it's described as the Windows Upgrade to Subscription Tool, and its date \
and time stamp corresponds to other administrative tools in the same \
build. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal \
style='margin-bottom:15.75pt;line-height:22.5pt;background:white;-webkit-user-select: \
auto !important'><span \
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#080E14'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:15.75pt;line-height:22.5pt;background:white;-webkit-user-select: \
auto !important'><span \
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#080E14'>See for \
yourself:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal \
style='margin-bottom:15.75pt;line-height:22.5pt;background:white;-webkit-user-select: \
auto !important'><span \
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#080E14'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";border:solid \
windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'><img border=0 width=100 height=100 id="_x0000_i1026" \
src="cid:image002.jpg@01D1D2E9.66ABE7D0" alt="Image removed by sender. \
windows-upgrade-to-subscription-tool.jpg"></span><span class=caption><span \
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:15.75pt'><span \
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>This mystery file is new in Windows 10 \
preview build 14376.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal \
style='margin-bottom:15.75pt;line-height:22.5pt;background:white;-webkit-user-select: \
auto !important'><span \
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#080E14'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:15.75pt;line-height:22.5pt;background:white;-webkit-user-select: \
auto !important'><span \
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#080E14'>The presence \
of that file is certain to ignite speculation among conspiracy theorists who were \
convinced in the run-up to the initial release of Windows 10 that the year-long free \
upgrade offer would turn into some sort of paid subscription.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:15.75pt;line-height:22.5pt;background:white;-webkit-user-select: \
auto !important'><span \
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#080E14'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:15.75pt;line-height:22.5pt;background:white;-webkit-user-select: \
auto !important'><span \
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#080E14'>When I asked \
Microsoft about this file, I got this response:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:15.75pt;line-height:22.5pt;background:white;-webkit-user-select: \
auto !important'><span \
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#080E14'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><blockquote \
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