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Subject: RE: [patchmanagement] Convenience rollup doesn't make much difference in the real world
From: Julian Harper <Julian.Harper () Laytons ! co ! uk>
Date: 2016-06-29 8:21:27
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The pre-req for the rollup is annoying, for the PCs I've setup recently I've actually \
skipped the rollup because it actually means more reboots.
It's a shame the rollup doesn't install the pre-req first.
Julian Harper
IT Manager
Laytons Wine Services Ltd
From: Lars Nelson [mailto:cubs66@gmail.com]
Sent: 29 June 2016 02:46
To: Patch Management Mailing List <patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org>
Subject: [patchmanagement] Convenience rollup doesn't make much difference in the \
real world
Had a project recently where I had 5 computers where Windows 7 had never been updated \
-- or at least not for a few years.
In this scenario, the systems were restricted from the Internet and had no access to \
a WSUS server -- reasonable customer operative -- and so, they never processed \
updates -- didn't need to and were never compromised..
It has taken almost a full two days to update these systems. Because of the nature \
of these computers they had to be done one at a time.
This after applying the patch prereq, rollup and June agent update.
While the detection process was good. It still took four or five install\reboot \
cycles -- the rollup does not cover the "other microsoft products" and so that takes \
a lot of time.
Spending that much time to patch Windows -- and these don't have Office!! Ugh.
Lars
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri \
Light",sans-serif;color:#1F3864;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The pre-req for the \
rollup is annoying, for the PCs I've setup recently I've actually skipped the rollup \
because it actually means more reboots.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri \
Light",sans-serif;color:#1F3864;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">It's a shame the \
rollup doesn't install the pre-req first.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p \
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Light",sans-serif;color:#1F3864;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#008040">Julian \
Harper<br> IT Manager<br>
Laytons Wine Services Ltd<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span \
lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> \
Lars Nelson [mailto:cubs66@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 29 June 2016 02:46<br>
<b>To:</b> Patch Management Mailing List \
<patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org><br> <b>Subject:</b> \
[patchmanagement] Convenience rollup doesn't make much difference in the real \
world<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Had a project recently where I had 5 computers where Windows 7 \
had never been updated -- or at least not for a few years.<o:p></o:p></p> <div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">In this scenario, the systems were restricted from the Internet \
and had no access to a WSUS server -- reasonable customer operative -- and so, they \
never processed updates -- didn't need to and were never compromised..<o:p></o:p></p> \
</div> <div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">It has taken almost a full two days to update these \
systems. Because of the nature of these computers they had to be done one at a \
time.<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">This after applying the patch prereq, rollup and June agent \
update.<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">While the detection process was good. It still took four \
or five install\reboot cycles -- the rollup does not cover the "other microsoft \
products" and so that takes a lot of time.<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Spending that much time to patch Windows -- and these don't have \
Office!! Ugh.<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Lars<o:p></o:p></p>
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