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Subject: RE: [patchmanagement] Error when attempting to change password: "The security database on the server
From: Michael Wells <mikew () chalgraveitsolutions ! com>
Date: 2016-05-30 20:28:35
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Hi Mike
From my experience both (although I'm not 100% about the last one)…
Mike.
From: Mike [mailto:craigslist4md@gmail.com]
Sent: 30 May 2016 16:53
To: Patch Management Mailing List <patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org>
Subject: Re: [patchmanagement] Error when attempting to change password: "The \
security database on the server does not have a computer account for this workstation \
trust relationship."
All four of those updates must be removed if someone has the problem?
Are they to be removed from the client, the server, or both?
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Michael Wells \
<mikew@chalgraveitsolutions.com<mailto:mikew@chalgraveitsolutions.com>> wrote: SR \
116052714221201 is open for this case. MS confirmed that this is a known issue (as \
per an internal document dated 2nd May 2016) which he was unable to share with me - \
he confirmed verbally that the current workaround is to remove the updates (and he \
will confirm via email later):
KB3146706, KB3149090, KB3147071 & KB3153171
This case is currently with the Global Escalation Team who are collecting data \
(still!) - and he informed me that it is unlikely that this would be corrected \
anytime soon.
I hope that this is useful.
Mike.
-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Bradley [mailto:sbradcpa@pacbell.net<mailto:sbradcpa@pacbell.net>]
Sent: 25 May 2016 00:20
To: Patch Management Mailing List \
<patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org<mailto:patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org>>
Subject: Re: [patchmanagement] Error when attempting to change password: "The \
security database on the server does not have a computer account for this workstation \
trust relationship."
May 2016 update rollup for Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3156417
This update package fixes the issues that are documented in the following Microsoft \
Knowledge Base articles:
* KB3155039 Error 1326 when you change domain account password in
Windows <https://support.microsoft.com/3155039>
Lovely no underlying KB.
Shooting in the dark here, what about that non security update rollup on the \
workstations?
On 5/24/2016 3:13 PM, Michael Wells wrote:
> Hi Philip
>
> No 2012 servers in the domain yet either. Just SBS 2008 and 2008 R2 member server.
>
> Mike.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philip Elder [mailto:PhilipElder@mpecsinc.ca<mailto:PhilipElder@mpecsinc.ca>]
> Sent: 24 May 2016 22:48
> To: Patch Management Mailing List
> <patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org<mailto:patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org>>
>
> Subject: RE: [patchmanagement] Error when attempting to change password: "The \
> security database on the server does not have a computer account for this \
> workstation trust relationship."
> I've not read through the entire thread. Kerberos Event ID 4s listed anywhere?
>
> If yes, there is a hotfix for that problem.
>
> https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/askds/2014/07/23/it-turns-out-that
> -weird-things-can-happen-when-you-mix-windows-server-2003-and-windows-
> server-2012-r2-domain-controllers/
>
> Shorty: http://bit.ly/TNKerb4
>
> Philip Elder
> Microsoft High Availability MVP
> Cloud: Canadian Cloud Worx
> Web Site
> Blog Site
> Twitter Site
> Skype: MPECS Inc.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Wells \
> [mailto:mikew@chalgraveitsolutions.com<mailto:mikew@chalgraveitsolutions.com>]
>
> Sent: May 24, 2016 15:07
> To: Patch Management Mailing List
> <patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org<mailto:patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org>>
>
> Subject: RE: [patchmanagement] Error when attempting to change password: "The \
> security database on the server does not have a computer account for this \
> workstation trust relationship."
> It was Server 2003 but not SBS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan Bradley [mailto:sbradcpa@pacbell.net<mailto:sbradcpa@pacbell.net>]
> Sent: 24 May 2016 20:29
> To: Patch Management Mailing List
> <patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org<mailto:patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org>>
>
> Subject: Re: [patchmanagement] Error when attempting to change password: "The \
> security database on the server does not have a computer account for this \
> workstation trust relationship."
> For the SBS 2008 in question was it migrated from a SBS 2003 network?
>
>
>
> On 5/24/2016 6:59 AM, Julian Harper wrote:
> > Were these systems disconnected from the network for extended periods
> > of time?
> >
> > I can't see why, or how, a patch would do this.
> >
> > It's also not something I've heard of which makes me wonder if this
> > is something specific to those PCs or your setup.
> >
> > *Julian Harper
> > IT Manager
> > Laytons Wine Services Ltd
> >
> > *
> >
> > *From:*Michael Wells \
> > [mailto:mikew@chalgraveitsolutions.com<mailto:mikew@chalgraveitsolutions.com>]
> >
> > *Sent:* 24 May 2016 08:45
> > *To:* Patch Management Mailing List
> > <patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org<mailto:patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org>>
> >
> > *Subject:* [patchmanagement] Error when attempting to change password:
> > "The security database on the server does not have a computer account
> > for this workstation trust relationship."
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I'm surprised that I haven't seen reports of this on this group –
> > after the April round of patches some of my clients reported the
> > workstation trust error when trying to change their password. As it
> > turns out it is as a result of one or more bad patches – one of which
> > was released in May (after the problem had been highlighted). I have
> > only been able to do limited testing but certainly removing the
> > following patches restores password change functionality in my
> > environment:
> >
> > KBs 3146706, 3149090, 3147071 & 3153171
> >
> > I'm tracking the problem at the following link:
> >
> > https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/office/en-US/f4d0e9e3-2f3
> > a
> > -4bc3-8f47-3395ced6f379/error-when-attempting-to-change-password-the-
> > s ecurity-database-on-the-server-does-not-have-a?forum=winserverDS
> >
> > Anyone else aware of problems in this area?
> >
> > Mike.
> >
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
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Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
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my experience both (although I'm not 100% about the last \
one)…<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span \
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Mike [mailto:craigslist4md@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 30 May 2016 16:53<br>
<b>To:</b> Patch Management Mailing List \
<patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: \
[patchmanagement] Error when attempting to change password: "The security \
database on the server does not have a computer account for this workstation trust \
relationship."<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">All four of those updates must be removed if someone has the \
problem?<o:p></o:p></p> <div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Are they to be removed from the client, the server, or \
both?<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Michael Wells <<a \
href="mailto:mikew@chalgraveitsolutions.com" \
target="_blank">mikew@chalgraveitsolutions.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> \
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm \
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"> <p class="MsoNormal">SR 116052714221201 is \
open for this case. MS confirmed that this is a known issue (as per an internal \
document dated 2nd May 2016) which he was unable to share with me - he confirmed \
verbally that the current workaround is to remove the updates (and he will confirm \
via email later):<br> <br>
KB3146706, KB3149090, KB3147071 & KB3153171<br>
<br>
This case is currently with the Global Escalation Team who are collecting data \
(still!) - and he informed me that it is unlikely that this would be corrected \
anytime soon.<br> <br>
I hope that this is useful.<br>
<br>
Mike.<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Susan Bradley [mailto:<a \
href="mailto:sbradcpa@pacbell.net">sbradcpa@pacbell.net</a>]<br>
Sent: 25 May 2016 00:20<br>
To: Patch Management Mailing List <<a \
href="mailto:patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org">patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [patchmanagement] Error when attempting to change password: "The \
security database on the server does not have a computer account for this workstation \
trust relationship."<br> <br>
May 2016 update rollup for Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1:<br>
<a href="https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3156417" \
target="_blank">https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3156417</a><br> This update \
package fixes the issues that are documented in the following Microsoft Knowledge \
Base articles:<br> <br>
* KB3155039 Error 1326 when you change domain account password in<br>
Windows <<a href="https://support.microsoft.com/3155039" \
target="_blank">https://support.microsoft.com/3155039</a>><br> <br>
Lovely no underlying KB.<br>
<br>
Shooting in the dark here, what about that non security update rollup on the \
workstations?<br> <br>
<br>
<br>
On 5/24/2016 3:13 PM, Michael Wells wrote:<br>
> Hi Philip<br>
><br>
> No 2012 servers in the domain yet either. Just SBS 2008 and 2008 R2 member \
server.<br> ><br>
> Mike.<br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Philip Elder [mailto:<a \
href="mailto:PhilipElder@mpecsinc.ca">PhilipElder@mpecsinc.ca</a>]<br> > Sent: 24 \
May 2016 22:48<br> > To: Patch Management Mailing List<br>
> <<a href="mailto:patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org">patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org</a>><br>
> Subject: RE: [patchmanagement] Error when attempting to change password: \
"The security database on the server does not have a computer account for this \
workstation trust relationship."<br> ><br>
> I've not read through the entire thread. Kerberos Event ID 4s listed \
anywhere?<br> ><br>
> If yes, there is a hotfix for that problem.<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/askds/2014/07/23/it-turns-out-that" \
target="_blank"> https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/askds/2014/07/23/it-turns-out-that</a><br>
> -weird-things-can-happen-when-you-mix-windows-server-2003-and-windows-<br>
> server-2012-r2-domain-controllers/<br>
><br>
> Shorty: <a href="http://bit.ly/TNKerb4" \
target="_blank">http://bit.ly/TNKerb4</a><br> ><br>
> Philip Elder<br>
> Microsoft High Availability MVP<br>
> Cloud: Canadian Cloud Worx<br>
> Web Site<br>
> Blog Site<br>
> Twitter Site<br>
> Skype: MPECS Inc.<br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Michael Wells [mailto:<a \
href="mailto:mikew@chalgraveitsolutions.com">mikew@chalgraveitsolutions.com</a>]<br> \
> Sent: May 24, 2016 15:07<br> > To: Patch Management Mailing List<br>
> <<a href="mailto:patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org">patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org</a>><br>
> Subject: RE: [patchmanagement] Error when attempting to change password: \
"The security database on the server does not have a computer account for this \
workstation trust relationship."<br> ><br>
> It was Server 2003 but not SBS<br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Susan Bradley [mailto:<a \
href="mailto:sbradcpa@pacbell.net">sbradcpa@pacbell.net</a>]<br> > Sent: 24 May \
2016 20:29<br> > To: Patch Management Mailing List<br>
> <<a href="mailto:patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org">patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [patchmanagement] Error when attempting to change password: \
"The security database on the server does not have a computer account for this \
workstation trust relationship."<br> ><br>
> For the SBS 2008 in question was it migrated from a SBS 2003 network?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On 5/24/2016 6:59 AM, Julian Harper wrote:<br>
>> Were these systems disconnected from the network for extended periods<br>
>> of time?<br>
>><br>
>> I can't see why, or how, a patch would do this.<br>
>><br>
>> It's also not something I've heard of which makes me wonder if this<br>
>> is something specific to those PCs or your setup.<br>
>><br>
>> *Julian Harper<br>
>> IT Manager<br>
>> Laytons Wine Services Ltd<br>
>><br>
>> *<br>
>><br>
>> *From:*Michael Wells [mailto:<a \
href="mailto:mikew@chalgraveitsolutions.com">mikew@chalgraveitsolutions.com</a>]<br> \
>> *Sent:* 24 May 2016 08:45<br> >> *To:* Patch Management Mailing \
List<br> >> <<a \
href="mailto:patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org">patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org</a>><br>
>> *Subject:* [patchmanagement] Error when attempting to change password:<br>
>> "The security database on the server does not have a computer \
account<br> >> for this workstation trust relationship."<br>
>><br>
>> Hi everyone,<br>
>><br>
>> I'm surprised that I haven't seen reports of this on this group –<br>
>> after the April round of patches some of my clients reported the<br>
>> workstation trust error when trying to change their password. As it<br>
>> turns out it is as a result of one or more bad patches – one of which<br>
>> was released in May (after the problem had been highlighted). I have<br>
>> only been able to do limited testing but certainly removing the<br>
>> following patches restores password change functionality in my<br>
>> environment:<br>
>><br>
>> KBs 3146706, 3149090, 3147071 & 3153171<br>
>><br>
>> I'm tracking the problem at the following link:<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/office/en-US/f4d0e9e3-2f3" \
target="_blank"> https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/office/en-US/f4d0e9e3-2f3</a><br>
>> a<br>
>> -4bc3-8f47-3395ced6f379/error-when-attempting-to-change-password-the-<br>
>> s ecurity-database-on-the-server-does-not-have-a?forum=winserverDS<br>
>><br>
>> Anyone else aware of problems in this area?<br>
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