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Subject: Re: [SPAM] RE: Microsoft Says No Again To Windows XP Update CDs -Security Watch:
From: "BARBOUR, SEAN" <sbarbour () kent ! edu>
Date: 2009-09-10 18:16:27
Message-ID: 9C40A68C-0CB5-4B02-878C-FE77A94EB909 () kent ! edu
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I have used the catelog for sometime on Vista as an admin with UAC
turned on with an issue.
I know some people will have issues when their security settings are
cranked up.
Sean
Sean Barbour
Lead IT User Support Analyst
Kent State University
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On Sep 10, 2009, at 13:57, "Mote, Todd" <moter@austin.utexas.edu> wrote:
> I've found that the Update Catalog doesn't play well with UAC, even
> running as the built in admin, I'd likely have to turn it off
> altogether to get it to work and I'm not even sure then. I had to
> install a Server 2003 VM to get it to work to download updates.
> Something to do with the popup towards the end of the selection
> process where you choose the location locally to save the updates.
>
> Works fine in XP/2003, with UAC on in Vista/2008 it doesn't work.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Tinney [mailto:jtinney@lastar.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:41 AM
> To: Patch Management Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: Microsoft Says No Again To Windows XP Update
> CDs -Security Watch:
>
> Worked great for me on XP/IE8.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Passarella [mailto:glasswalkerny@realmsguard.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 7:00 PM
> To: Patch Management Mailing List
> Subject: [SPAM] RE: Microsoft Says No Again To Windows XP Update CDs
> -Security Watch:
>
> Tried this site.. it doesn't recognize IE8 as "IE6 or higher"..
> figures
>
> --Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Neal [mailto:dugn@microsoft.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 05:00 PM
> To: Patch Management Mailing List
> Subject: RE: Microsoft Says No Again To Windows XP Update CDs -
> Security
> Watch:
>
> http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/ does a lot of this already. Just
> build criteria (platform, KB number, etc.) and all related patches can
> be dumped into an auto-built directory structure on your local
> machine.
>
> doug neal
> Microsoft Update (MU)
> Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer (MBSA)
>
> From: Bob Schatz [mailto:bschatz@us.ibm.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 12:00 PM
> To: Patch Management Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Microsoft Says No Again To Windows XP Update CDs -
> Security
> Watch:
>
>
>
>
> You're talking about Microsoft and patches. By the time they'd put
> out
> a CD, it would be outdated. FTP or web site makes the most sense.
>
> From:
> Eric <ews@tellurian.net>
> To:
> "Patch Management Mailing List"
> <patchmanagement@listserv.patchmanagement.org>
> Date:
> 09/08/2009 12:33 PM
> Subject:
> Re: Microsoft Says No Again To Windows XP Update CDs - Security Watch:
>
> ________________________________________
>
>
>
> "Microsoft should just put all the critical updates on an FTP server
> in
> a directory somewhere."
> This is how it was done circa 1997 - One folder per OS, then folders
> for
> each SP, and within each SP folder, subfolders for each patch. Worked
> very well.
>
> I believe the major objection to the patch CD is the method of
> obtaining
> the patches. Microsoft doesn't like to have any of their patches
> rehosted at a third-party site. Whether that's for legal reasons or
> simply to help ensure that those updates don't go out of date
> (replaced
> by newer patches on MS site that don't get updated on third party
> site),
> i don't know.
>
> As long as the actual patch binaries are downloaded from the Microsoft
> website and put to your own disk for your own use, that should be
> fine.
> Perhaps someone could build a tool that contains all the patches and
> their download URLs for each OS. Then, the end-user could run the
> tool
> on an Internet-connected machine, select the OSes and apps (and
> languages) that they're interested in, and the tool would download all
> the appropriate patches and burn them to disk. I don't believe MS
> would
> have a problem with that because the patches themselves are coming
> directly from MS. (this assumes that you're using the disk for your
> own
> corporate use, not rehosting it again for others).
>
> --eric schultze
>
>
> Ben Scott wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Steve
>> Shockley<steve.shockley@shockley.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> Microsoft Says No Again To Windows XP Update CDs - Security Watch:
>>>>
>>> Huh? What about http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913086?
>>>
>>
>> The problem with that distribution is that it's oriented the wrong
>> way. Each image is all updates for all products for all languages
>> *in
>
>> a given month*. So to (for example) get all updates needed to
>> bring a
>
>> new Win XP English SP3 install to current, you have to download *TENS
>> OF GIGABYTES* of stuff you don't want, and carry around tens of
>> discs.
>>
>> Microsoft should just put all the critical updates on an FTP server
>> in a directory somewhere.
>>
>> -- Ben
>>
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