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List:       patchmanagement
Subject:    RE: Junk Mail Filter update
From:       "John Hornbuckle" <john.hornbuckle () taylor ! k12 ! fl ! us>
Date:       2005-12-15 13:29:46
Message-ID: 75B99757C686054C82AE2AC6E4482CA2015851D0 () noc-pe2600 ! taylor ! k12 ! fl ! us
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Guess I'm just lucky; Outlook's built-in junk mail filter seems to be
90%-95% effective for me. Very few false positives or failures to flag
junk.

As for something that the server level that altogether prevents
suspected junk mail from getting to users' mailboxes... Well, I'm just
too cautious to implement something like that. If there were a single
false positive that prevented just one message from getting through, my
users would start screaming.


John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

www.taylor.k12.fl.us


-----Original Message-----
From: Rodney Lewis [mailto:RLewis@NICOR.COM] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 5:15 PM
To: Patch Management Mailing List
Subject: RE: Junk Mail Filter update

Agreed. The junk mail filter is hardly industrial strength. At home my
ISP filters it first, then I filter it on the way in & out with
Symantec. Very rarely does anything show up in the junk mail folder.
Corporate, we've got Iron Mail and Symantec filtering before anything
hits the servers and very rarely does anything get through. MS is not in
the spam filtering business and I'd prefer that they keep their focus on
the OS, productivity, and development products. I don't even
particularly care to see them poking around in the spyware business
(another weak product...works 'okay' if you've already got a clean
machine but forget about using it to clean one that's already been
infested)...leave it to the folks who do it better and stop trying to
take over every facet of the marketplace...this is the stuff that starts
getting them into monopoly trouble.

-Rodney

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Bolton [mailto:ltb@armedicalboard.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:14 PM
To: Patch Management Mailing List
Subject: RE: Junk Mail Filter update


If you are relying on this as your only means of Junk Mail filtering
then you have bigger issues to worry about.  Even as a home user, if you
do not have something as simple as Zone Alarm scanning your messages
then you are already a Zombie, just waiting for the 5th to roll around I
would guess...

At the corporate level the built in Junk Mail is only noticed when
something mistakenly ends up there.  We have several other processes
that scan our mail before it ever hits our servers, and again after
words.

For the home user I recommend Gmail.  At least then its on there
servers, until you open an attachment or click on a bogus link...


Tim Bolton
Network Administrator
Information Technology Dept. 
Arkansas State Medical Board
www.armedicalboard.org
Phone: 501-296-1953
Cell: 501-350-4291
Fax: 501-296-1805 


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