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Subject:    RE: MS05-024 (Q894320) and mapped network drives
From:       Michael DeGuzman <Michael.DeGuzman () reuters ! com>
Date:       2005-05-31 20:32:09
Message-ID: T7140dd2d2c0a0135234cd8 () lonsmime03 ! rit ! reuters ! com
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I think I have experienced something similar for the case of the DC not
being able to be seen (NETLOGON share missing!!)-->hence AD startup
login scripts can not be seen-->hence no drive mappings intended by the
startup scripts.

I just did a registry change suggested by MS and it fixed it!  This
happened around 2-3 months back.

Whoever wants to get the registry change on the Windows 2003 dc please
email me as I am yet to search from it from my tons of mail 8-)

My guess is that we are talking of completely different issues here
which should not all be blamed 100% to MS05-024.  I tested MS05-024 on
test/live workstations and w2k/w2k3 servers without any problems so far.

Mike--

-----Original Message-----
From: Reg [mailto:reg@nwc.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 1:46 AM
To: Patch Management Mailing List
Cc: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Subject: Re: MS05-024 (Q894320) and mapped network drives

We are continuing to investigate.  Slow-Login problem has re-occured as
of this morning. Problem is, however, sporadic at best.  Right now we're
investigating WINS/DNS.  Errors in primary file server (Win2K, but
member of NT4 domain) log indicate it's having a problem doing dynamic
DNS registration to the Win2K3 DC.  Since the login script references
the file server, we think this may be a cause.  If so, rest assured
we'll contact MS when/if we can reproduce or isolate the problem.  We've
created a static DNS entry for the server, and if it works, we'll try to
see why it won't register in dynamic DNS.

I agree it's not MS05-024.

Reg

Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:

> And I hope you guys are calling PSS [product support services] on this

> as issues caused by a patch are a free call... and rebooting certainly

> isn't the answer.
> Get to the bottom of the problem..run netmon or other diagnostic
tools.
>
> It's my opinion that we don't do enough to diagnose what's going on 
> [including myself]
>
> If this started happening 6 weeks ago...that's not 05-024... 05-024 is

> a May 10th patch.  Look back to what exactly was installed 6 weeks 
> ago..and if you don't do your "Patch Tuesday" until later, look back 
> in your patch log book/database to see what got installed 6 weeks ago 
> and don't rule out hardware/nic/ and other issues.
> Stop rebooting and start properly diagnosing IMHO.
>
> Susan
>
> Greg Shields wrote:
>
>> This is interesting, because we're seeing something similar (but not 
>> completely similar).  Rebooting fixes the issue -- but only for a few

>> days.
>> We started with reboots every 3-4 days, but now are getting to nearly

>> every day.
>>
>> /Greggo
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Reg [mailto:reg@nwc.ca] Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: MS05-024 (Q894320) and mapped network drives
>>
>> We had the following experience, don't know what patch or what broke
it:
>> - approximately 6 weeks ago first report of mapped drives failing.\
>> - two weeks later slow logins from sites with no local DC reported 
>> (15-30 minutes to log in)
>> - both problems slowly spread  over the next  4 weeks
>> - this week some users could map drives, but not see contents of 
>> folders
>>
>> Here's the environment:
>> - win2k3 domain (not sp1 yet - Dell servers)
>> - file server is windows 2000 (fully patched)
>> - win xp desktops (in various patch states - we're working on that)
>>
>> We found that we had issues mapping drives to only ONE server ONLY 
>> from sites with no local DC on their LAN.  We "thought" that maybe 
>> there was a wins problem with our main office DC, but local clients 
>> had no problems.  Started looking at MTU settings on wan, etc...
>> Found that from the file server in question, we could not map drives 
>> OUT to affected client machines either.  File server seemed to be 
>> registered in WINS, but for the heck of it we restarted it.  All 
>> problems went away.  I can't explain it, but that's what happened.
>>
>> Reg
>>
>>
>> Greg Shields wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>> Hi -
>>>
>>> We are experiencing some issues with SAMBA disconnections on 
>>> Terminal Servers -- strangely enough when we see the SAMBA problems 
>>> we also see the login time take an incredibly long time to complete.

>>> Citrix shows it hanging at the "Checking your Credentials" phase in 
>>> their login banner.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if this might be related?  We're tearing our hair 
>>> out on this one.  The only fix right now is a reboot, which we're 
>>> having to do about every 24 hours.
>>>
>>> Please help!
>>>
>>> /Greg Shields,
>>> MCSE: Security, CCEA
>>> Sr. Systems Engineer, NPOESS Common Environments Raytheon Company, 
>>> Aurora
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sec List [mailto:Bio-SecList@bristol.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, May

>>> 24, 2005 2:21 AM
>>> Subject: RE: MS05-024 (Q894320) and mapped network drives
>>>
>>> Just on the off chance, are you connecting to a samba host. If so, 
>>> see if there is an upgraded client.
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>> --On 19 May 2005 11:35 -0700 "Bott, Bruce - SICA" 
>>> <bbott@simpson.com>
>>>   
>>
>> wrote:
>>  
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>> We use an informal hierarchy of 'guinea pigs' on our network for 
>>>> patch testing.
>>>>
>>>> We start with a few IS 'mule' PC's and apply patches...
>>>> poke around... does anything break?
>>>>
>>>> Then we push the patches to a group of non-critical PC's that can 
>>>> tolerate an interruption without hurting the business and listen 
>>>> for any trouble reports.
>>>>
>>>> If those pass muster do we move to patching a few mainstream 
>>>> PC's... and then, if they're happy, we will push onto the full 
>>>> network.
>>>>
>>>> At all points in the process, an 'ear' is kept to the web for any 
>>>> trouble reports.
>>>>
>>>> This reduces risk without developing/maintaining a formal patch 
>>>> test script (we run with very few staff now).  The downside is that

>>>> it delays full rollout by a day or two while you push/look for 
>>>> trouble at each level of deployment.
>>>>
>>>> -- bb
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Todd Towles [mailto:toddtowles@brookshires.com]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 9:22 AM
>>>> To: Patch Management Mailing List
>>>> Subject: RE: MS05-024 (Q894320) and mapped network drives
>>>>
>>>> Colin, you are about to deploy a patch you haven't tested in your 
>>>> environment? You shouldn't deploy th patch if you don't know what 
>>>> is going to do to the core operating of your business.
>>>>
>>>> Take a image of a normal computer on their current patch level and 
>>>> get to testing. =)
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Colin [mailto:colweb@gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:53 AM
>>>>> To: Patch Management Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: MS05-024 (Q894320) and mapped network drives
>>>>>
>>>>> I am on the verge of clicking "Authorise" on this patch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should I wait in light of these problems? All my users
>>>>> (3000+) use mapped drives to work so I can see this spreading 
>>>>> brown stuff off the fans. We run Lotus Notes and the data files 
>>>>> are on their
>>>>>    
>>>>> home drives so this could hurt us bad.
>>>>>
>>>>> Diane, how many machines did you deploy to?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also the original poster didnt mention Office, so is KB897853 
>>>>> related atall?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Colin.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/18/05, Richard Davis <ddavis@jifpak.com> wrote:
>>>>>    
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>> Check out KB897853. It might help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dick Davis
>>>>>> Information Systems
>>>>>> Jif-Pak Manufacturing, Inc.
>>>>>> 760-597-2665 x107 Phone
>>>>>> 760-597-2667 Fax
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diane Bunyan [mailto:dbunyan@book.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 11:19 AM
>>>>>> To: Patch Management Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: RE: MS05-024 (Q894320) and mapped network drives
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have deployed this patch and thus far had 1 user complain of 
>>>>>> this problem. Has there been any further information regarding a 
>>>>>> fix for this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       Thank you for your help,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________
>>>>>> Diane C. Bunyan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: James O'Gorman [mailto:James.OGorman@hesa.ac.uk]
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 4:57 AM
>>>>>> To: Patch Management Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: MS05-024 (Q894320) and mapped network drives
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After applying the patch for MS05-024 (Web View Script Injection
>>>>>> Vulnerability) on Thursday night to client workstations
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>         
>>>>>
>>>>> (Windows 2000
>>>>>    
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>> SP4) an increasing number of our users are experiencing
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>         
>>>>>
>>>>> sporadic and
>>>>>    
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>> persistent disconnect notifications for mapped network
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>         
>>>>>
>>>>> drives.  I have
>>>>>    
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>> tried the obvious NET USE * /d and then remap the drives with 
>>>>>> /PERSISTENT:YES and within a few minutes the disconnections
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>         
>>>>>
>>>>> resume.
>>>>>    
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>> Any operations for reading or writing will result in the error;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An error occurred while reconnecting (SOME DRIVE LETTER):
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>         
>>>>>
>>>>> to (SOME UNC
>>>>>    
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>> NETWORK PATH) Microsoft Windows Network: the local device name is

>>>>>> already in use. The connection has not been restored.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ... although the drive is still usable it will display the usual 
>>>>>> disconnected drive red cross icon and randomly throw the
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>         
>>>>>
>>>>> error above
>>>>>    
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>> during drive access.  This was the ONLY change to the
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>         
>>>>>
>>>>> domain prior to
>>>>>    
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>> the issue and removal of the patch is proving difficult for
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>         
>>>>>
>>>>> users who
>>>>>    
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>> received the patch via HFNetChk Pro.  Is anyone else experiencing

>>>>>> similar issues?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>> James
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James O'Gorman, Support Analyst, Higher Education Statistics 
>>>>>> Agency (HESA), UK.
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