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Subject:    Re: [Paraview] Indication of delay between interactive and still
From:       "Moreland, Kenneth" <kmorel () sandia ! gov>
Date:       2010-06-25 18:23:56
Message-ID: C84A505C.321C%kmorel () sandia ! gov
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I actually think 3 is a good idea, too.  Except you may want to put it in the pane's \
title bar.  I also like 2, but I would augment it such that the LED starts out bright \
and then dims.  It's timed so that the LED is all the way dim the render starts.  It \
has the same effect as a spinning thing or progress bar, but would probably be less \
distracting.

A nice feature might also be that when you click the whatever-it-is, the render \
starts immediately.  A tooltip that could be active even when the whatever-it-is is \
not doing anything could be helpful in explaining what it is for.

-Ken


On 6/24/10 6:36 PM, "Berk Geveci" <berk.geveci@kitware.com> wrote:

Oo oo I like 3. Even better the Mac-startup-progress-wheel thingy.

-berk

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:31 PM, David Thompson <dcthomp@sandia.gov> wrote:
That is really a good point. The more I use it, the more I realize
this is absolutely essential. But how ? :). What could serve as a good
indication?

1. Different colors on the border surrounding the pane (but this competes with the \
red/blue indicating which pane is "Active") 2. An LED-like glyph in the pane's title \
bar? 3. A small overlay in one corner of the pane? (Ken's favorite: a pie chart \
showing either time remaining before a still render or time spent waiting for a still \
render to finish. :-)

        David


On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Moreland, Kenneth <kmorel@sandia.gov> wrote:
I just got a chance to try out the new feature that pauses for 2 seconds
between the last interactive render and the still render to give you a
chance to make further movements
(http://paraview.org/Bug/view.php?id=10232).  Totally cool.

One thing I noticed though is that there is no indication of an intentional
pause.  Is there a subtle way to let the user know when the interface is
pausing and when it is busy rendering?  Or is it fine the way it is?

-Ken

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actually think 3 is a good idea, too. &nbsp;Except you may want to put it in the \
pane&#8217;s title bar. &nbsp;I also like 2, but I would augment it such that the LED \
starts out bright and then dims. &nbsp;It&#8217;s timed so that the LED is all the \
way dim the render starts. &nbsp;It has the same effect as a spinning thing or \
progress bar, but would probably be less distracting.<BR> <BR>
A nice feature might also be that when you click the whatever-it-is, the render \
starts immediately. &nbsp;A tooltip that could be active even when the whatever-it-is \
is not doing anything could be helpful in explaining what it is for.<BR> <BR>
-Ken<BR>
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On 6/24/10 6:36 PM, &quot;Berk Geveci&quot; &lt;<a \
href="berk.geveci@kitware.com">berk.geveci@kitware.com</a>&gt; wrote:<BR> <BR>
</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN \
STYLE='font-size:11pt'>Oo oo I like 3. Even better the Mac-startup-progress-wheel \
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-berk<BR>
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On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:31 PM, David Thompson &lt;<a \
href="dcthomp@sandia.gov">dcthomp@sandia.gov</a>&gt; wrote:<BR> \
</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, \
Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:11pt'>That is really a good point. The more I use it, \
the more I realize<BR> this is absolutely essential. But how ? :). What could serve \
as a good<BR> indication?<BR>
</SPAN></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN \
STYLE='font-size:11pt'><BR> 1. Different colors on the border surrounding the pane \
(but this competes with the red/blue indicating which pane is &quot;Active&quot;)<BR> \
2. An LED-like glyph in the pane's title bar?<BR> 3. A small overlay in one corner of \
the pane? (Ken's favorite: a pie chart showing either time remaining before a still \
render or time spent waiting for a still render to finish. :-)<BR> <FONT \
COLOR="#888888"><BR> &nbsp;       David<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN \
STYLE='font-size:11pt'>On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Moreland, Kenneth &lt;<a \
href="kmorel@sandia.gov">kmorel@sandia.gov</a>&gt; wrote:<BR> \
</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN \
STYLE='font-size:11pt'>I just got a chance to try out the new feature that pauses for \
2 seconds<BR> between the last interactive render and the still render to give you \
a<BR> chance to make further movements<BR>
(<a href="http://paraview.org/Bug/view.php?id=10232">http://paraview.org/Bug/view.php?id=10232</a>). \
Totally cool.<BR> <BR>
One thing I noticed though is that there is no indication of an intentional<BR>
pause.  Is there a subtle way to let the user know when the interface is<BR>
pausing and when it is busy rendering?  Or is it fine the way it is?<BR>
<BR>
-Ken<BR>
<BR>
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