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From: "Moreland, Kenneth" <kmorel () sandia ! gov>
Date: 2006-07-31 22:24:45
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Try unchecking the checkbox next to client collect. Be warned that this
will send the reduced geometry to the client no matter what. Not all
surfaces are susceptible to the decimation, so your client may end up
with a lot of data.
-Ken
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From: Randall Hand [mailto:randall.hand@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 4:21 PM
To: Wylie, Brian
Cc: Moreland, Kenneth; Paraview List
Subject: Re: [Paraview] More Q about Paraview & Tiled Displays
See, that's the trick.. "Reduced" Geometry on the client. How do I get
this mystical "reduced" geometry on the client,w ith full-rez on the
display?
No matter what I set "Client collect" to, my 60+ million triangle
surface is shown as mere bounding boxes to the client.
On 7/31/06, Wylie, Brian <bnwylie@sandia.gov> wrote:
No Ken is right.
You can get a reduced geometry at your client, but you cannot get an
image (while simultaneously displaying on a tiled display). If you think
about it, it would mean that paraview would have to do two compositing
passes, one for the tiled display and one for the client composite
image.
Having the reduced geometry on the client side, seems to work just fine
(that is what you saw here at Sandia :)
Best,
Brian Wylie - Org 1424
Sandia National Laboratories
MS 0822 - Building 880/A1-J
(505)844-2238 FAX(505)845-0833
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From: paraview-bounces+bnwylie=sandia.gov@paraview.org
[mailto:paraview-bounces+bnwylie=sandia.gov@paraview.org] On Behalf Of
Randall Hand
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 3:20 PM
To: Moreland, Kenneth
Cc: Paraview List
Subject: Re: [Paraview] More Q about Paraview & Tiled Displays
Awww comeon, I know that's not true :) I was at Sandia less than a Year
ago and I saw you guys using it in your new spiffy panoram room. :)
So what's the magic trick?
On 7/31/06, Moreland, Kenneth <kmorel@sandia.gov> wrote:
Sorry, but there is no mechanism for creating reduced size image to
deliver to the client when in tile display mode. ParaView does,
however, send a reduced sized geometry to the client when LOD is
enabled. You may want to try playing with the "LOD resolution" and
"Client Collect" options to try to get a nice reduced geometry to the
client.
-Ken
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From: paraview-bounces+kmorel=sandia.gov@paraview.org [mailto:
paraview-bounces+kmorel=sandia.gov@paraview.org
<mailto:paraview-bounces+kmorel=sandia.gov@paraview.org> ] On Behalf Of
Randall Hand
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 10:11 AM
To: Paraview List
Subject: [Paraview] More Q about Paraview & Tiled Displays
In a followup to yesterday's question, is there any way to have the
image that is displayed on the Tiled-display rendered to the local
client as well? Right now my local Paraview client shows just bounding
boxes. The geometry in question is far too big to have the "geometry"
send back (Which it seems there is a "Client Collect" option for), I
really just need framebuffers composited & sent back (Like in the
MPIRenderModule).
Is there a way to enable such behavior? I know the resolution would, of
course, be much worse on the single display but it would help alot in
just knowing what's going on. Also, it seems the options to "Set
Center" doesn't work on the client unless the geometry is shown
(Presumably because the OpenGL query stuff doesn't work if no geomtry is
shown).
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:maroon'>Try unchecking
the checkbox next to client collect. Be warned that this will send the reduced
geometry to the client no matter what. Not all surfaces are susceptible to the
decimation, so your client may end up with a lot of \
data.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier \
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Randall Hand
[mailto:randall.hand@gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 31, 2006 4:21
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Wylie,
Brian</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Moreland, Kenneth; Paraview
List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Paraview] More Q
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>See, that's the trick..
"Reduced" Geometry on the client. How do I get this mystical
"reduced" geometry on the client,w ith full-rez on the display?<br>
<br>
No matter what I set "Client collect" to, my 60+ million triangle
surface is shown as mere bounding boxes to the client. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 7/31/06, <st1:PersonName w:st="on"><b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>Wylie, Brian</span></b></st1:PersonName> <<a
href="mailto:bnwylie@sandia.gov">bnwylie@sandia.gov</a>> \
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>No Ken is right.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>You can get a reduced geometry at your
client, but you cannot get an image (while simultaneously displaying on a tiled
display). If you think about it, it would mean that paraview would have to do
two compositing passes, one for the tiled display and one for the client
composite image.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Having the reduced geometry on the client
side, seems to work just fine (that is what you saw here at Sandia \
:)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Best,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Fixedsys><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Fixedsys'> Brian Wylie - Org 1424<br>
Sandia National Laboratories<br>
MS 0822 - Building 880/A1-J<br>
(505)844-2238 \
FAX(505)845-0833 <br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
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paraview-bounces+bnwylie=<a href="mailto:sandia.gov@paraview.org"
target="_blank">sandia.gov@paraview.org</a> [mailto:<a
href="mailto:paraview-bounces+bnwylie=sandia.gov@paraview.org" \
target="_blank">paraview-bounces+bnwylie=sandia.gov@paraview.org</a>] <b><span \
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Randall Hand<br> <b><span \
style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 31, 2006 3:20 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Moreland, Kenneth<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Paraview List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Paraview] More Q
about Paraview & Tiled Displays</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span class=e><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Awww comeon, I know
that's not true :) I was at Sandia less than a Year ago and I saw you
guys using it in your new spiffy panoram room. :) \
</span></font></span><br> <br>
<span class=e>So what's the magic trick?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 7/31/06, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Moreland,
Kenneth</span></b> <<a href="mailto:kmorel@sandia.gov" \
target="_blank">kmorel@sandia.gov</a>> wrote:</span></font></span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=maroon face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:maroon'>Sorry, but there is no mechanism for
creating reduced size image to deliver to the client when in tile display
mode. ParaView does, however, send a reduced sized geometry to the client
when LOD is enabled. You may want to try playing with the "LOD
resolution" and "Client Collect" options to try to get a nice
reduced geometry to the client.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span \
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=maroon face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:maroon'>-Ken</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span \
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<p><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> paraview-bounces+kmorel=<a
href="mailto:sandia.gov@paraview.org" target="_blank">sandia.gov@paraview.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:paraview-bounces+kmorel=sandia.gov@paraview.org"
target="_blank"> paraview-bounces+kmorel=sandia.gov@paraview.org</a>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Randall Hand<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, July 29, 2006
10:11 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Paraview List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Paraview] More Q about
Paraview & Tiled Displays</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span \
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>In a
followup to yesterday's question, is there any way to have the image that is
displayed on the Tiled-display rendered to the local client as well?
Right now my local Paraview client shows just bounding boxes. The
geometry in question is far too big to have the "geometry" send back
(Which it seems there is a "Client Collect" option for), I really
just need framebuffers composited & sent back (Like in the
MPIRenderModule). <br>
<br>
Is there a way to enable such behavior? I know the resolution would, of
course, be much worse on the single display but it would help alot in just
knowing what's going on. Also, it seems the options to "<st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Set</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType \
w:st="on">Center</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>" doesn't work on the client unless \
the geometry is shown (Presumably because the OpenGL query stuff doesn't work if no \
geomtry is shown). <br clear=all> <br>
-- <br>
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Randall Hand<br>
Visualization Scientist<br>
ERDC MSRC-ITL <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<span class=e>ERDC MSRC-ITL </span></span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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