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List:       owncloud
Subject:    Re: [Owncloud] Mounting External Storage
From:       Frank Karlitschek <karlitschek () kde ! org>
Date:       2012-02-21 11:10:42
Message-ID: 3BCB323D-F60A-4466-B54C-3054AA0AFCF6 () kde ! org
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On 21.02.2012, at 10:16, Arthur Schiwon <blizzz@owncloud.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday 21 February 2012 10:04:49 Klaas Freitag wrote:
> > On 20.02.2012 23:21, Tom Needham wrote:
> > > > On 20.02.2012, at 22:11, Michael Gapczynski<mtgap@owncloud.com>  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > However, I can also
> > > > invision having the files from Dropbox and Google Docs showing up in the
> > > > root of the filesystem with an indicator of their respective external
> > > > locations. During the upload or file creation process the user would be
> > > > presented with a choice of where to store the file. This feels more
> > > > natural to me than a directory system and could prevent problems with
> > > > locating files.
> > > 
> > > I think that mounting all of the storage backends into the root folder
> > > might even be easier for the end user, if we can make the ui work well.
> > > If everything was mounted in folders /dropbox /google /ftp I think end
> > > users would get confused where their files were actually being stored and
> > > could loose track of things.
> > Thats right, unexperienced  users which we also like to see in ownCloud
> > often do not understand the directory concept, especially not if they
> > did not create the directory nor understand their name: One will
> > understand a "Letters to Tina" folder way better than a suddenly
> > appearing "FTP" directory.
> 
> Agree

Sure. But keep in mind that not everybody is using the webinterface. If a user using WebDAV, \
the Mobile Client or the Desktop Syncing Client the user has no idea where a file comes from or \
where it is physically stored. There is also no obvious way to move it around between different \
locations. If I mount my work ownCloud into my private ownCloud I would prefer to have this \
clearly separated and not mixed together. But perhaps thats only me :-)


> 
> > 
> > Most users today have search centric behaviour, driven by google. Google
> > does not have directories, you just searhch and find. Even if we store
> > data in dirs and mount into directories (which we need for tech reasons
> > I think) maybe we should think more in the direction of creating various
> > views on the files structure. For example, an alternative to the current
> > file-page of ownCloud could be a page with just a search field. If one
> > enters "Tina" all files from the "Letters to Tina" dir are presented.
> 
> I like this idea. In the end, wouldn't we follow the ideas of Nepomuk in a 
> certain way?

Absolutely. Thats definitely the goal but we probably need a few more month for that :-)


> > > Perhaps we could also enhance the idea of 'labelling' (or maybe better
> > > 'tagging') of files to make it easier to search for files (much like
> > > bookmarks). This would make it easy for example to show everything stored
> > > on dropbox, or everything that you are sharing...
> > Yes, tags are one of the search criteria often used.
> > 
> > > It's certainly an interesting topic :)
> > 
> > Yes, and one which is technically hard to tackle but one that really can
> > make ownCloud even more exciting.
> > 
> > Klaas
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Frank Karlitschek
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