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Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] Facebook Messenger rolls out end-to-end encryption, with no warning
From: Shaun Potts via Outages-discussion <outages-discussion () outages ! org>
Date: 2024-03-17 2:40:01
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idk why but this is just a really dumb thing to complain about
On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 9:56 PM Jay R. Ashworth via Outages-discussion <
outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
> It's been a busy four months here; I didn't see that they did anything
> on-platform, until they actually launched it. Thanks for the links.
>
> Cheers,
> -- jra
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeffrey Ollie" <jeff@ocjtech.us>
> > To: "jra" <jra@baylink.com>
> > Cc: "Outages Discussion" <outages-discussion@outages.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2024 8:48:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] Facebook Messenger rolls out
> end-to-end encryption, with no warning
>
> > Well, no notice other than the press release that they sent out four
> months
> > ago?
> >
> >
> https://about.fb.com/news/2023/12/default-end-to-end-encryption-on-messenger/
> >
> https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/6/23991501/facebook-messenger-default-end-to-end-encryption-meta
> >
> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/12/meta-announces-end-end-encryption-default-messenger
> > https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-67646047
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 10:55 AM Jay R. Ashworth via Outages-discussion <
> > outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:
> >
> >> ADVISORY: Without warning, as usual, Facebook is doing another of its
> >> passive-aggressive "we're going to make things better for you, TAKE
> THAT!"
> >> moves.
> >>
> >> This one entails Messenger, and the fact that they're switching it to
> >> end-to-end encryption, so now you can talk about your affairs without
> >> your spouse who works for Facebook being able to read it.
> >>
> >> If you use the mobile Messenger client *and* the web-based one, you'll
> >> have to set (and not forget) a 6-digit pin, so that each client can
> >> decrypt
> >> your chat-message history. There are two other choices, and one of
> those
> >> might be better for you if you *don't* use multiple devices...
> >>
> >> I would say give this one some thought before choosing, but that's where
> >> the passive-aggressive part comes in: you can't. I didn't hear any
> >> warnings
> >> in my channels that this was coming. And certainly none *from Facebook
> >> itself*.
> >>
> >> As usual, this is on-topic, at least for -discuss, because people who
> run
> >> eyeball networks may get queries on this from customers, and FB is Rilly
> >> Big.
> >>
> >> Be careful out there, people...
> >>
> >> Next on the docket: TikTok and it's (arguably) CCP-controlled ownership.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> -- jra
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jay R. Ashworth Baylink
> >> jra@baylink.com
> >> Designer The Things I Think
> RFC
> >> 2100
> >> Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land
> >> Rover DII
> >> St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727
> 647
> >> 1274
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Jeff Ollie
> > The majestik møøse is one of the mäni interesting furry animals in
> Sweden.
>
> --
> Jay R. Ashworth Baylink
> jra@baylink.com
> Designer The Things I Think RFC
> 2100
> Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land
> Rover DII
> St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647
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<div dir="ltr">idk why but this is just a really dumb thing to complain \
about</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar \
16, 2024 at 9:56 PM Jay R. Ashworth via Outages-discussion <<a \
href="mailto:outages-discussion@outages.org">outages-discussion@outages.org</a>> \
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">It's been a busy \
four months here; I didn't see that they did anything <br> on-platform, until \
they actually launched it. Thanks for the links.<br> <br>
Cheers,<br>
-- jra<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: "Jeffrey Ollie" <<a href="mailto:jeff@ocjtech.us" \
target="_blank">jeff@ocjtech.us</a>><br> > To: "jra" <<a \
href="mailto:jra@baylink.com" target="_blank">jra@baylink.com</a>><br> > Cc: \
"Outages Discussion" <<a href="mailto:outages-discussion@outages.org" \
target="_blank">outages-discussion@outages.org</a>><br> > Sent: Saturday, March \
16, 2024 8:48:54 PM<br> > Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] Facebook Messenger \
rolls out end-to-end encryption, with no warning<br> <br>
> Well, no notice other than the press release that they sent out four months<br>
> ago?<br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://about.fb.com/news/2023/12/default-end-to-end-encryption-on-messenger/" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://about.fb.com/news/2023/12/default-end-to-end-encryption-on-messenger/</a><br>
> <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/6/23991501/facebook-messenger-default-end-to-end-encryption-meta" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/6/23991501/facebook-messenger-default-end-to-end-encryption-meta</a><br>
> <a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/12/meta-announces-end-end-encryption-default-messenger" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/12/meta-announces-end-end-encryption-default-messenger</a><br>
> <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-67646047" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-67646047</a><br> > <br>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 10:55 AM Jay R. Ashworth via Outages-discussion \
<<br> > <a href="mailto:outages-discussion@outages.org" \
target="_blank">outages-discussion@outages.org</a>> wrote:<br> > <br>
>> ADVISORY: Without warning, as usual, Facebook is doing another of its<br>
>> passive-aggressive "we're going to make things better for you, TAKE \
THAT!"<br> >> moves.<br>
>><br>
>> This one entails Messenger, and the fact that they're switching it \
to<br> >> end-to-end encryption, so now you can talk about your affairs \
without<br> >> your spouse who works for Facebook being able to read it.<br>
>><br>
>> If you use the mobile Messenger client *and* the web-based one, \
you'll<br> >> have to set (and not forget) a 6-digit pin, so that each \
client can<br> >> decrypt<br>
>> your chat-message history. There are two other choices, and one of \
those<br> >> might be better for you if you *don't* use multiple \
devices...<br> >><br>
>> I would say give this one some thought before choosing, but that's \
where<br> >> the passive-aggressive part comes in: you can't. I \
didn't hear any<br> >> warnings<br>
>> in my channels that this was coming. And certainly none *from Facebook<br>
>> itself*.<br>
>><br>
>> As usual, this is on-topic, at least for -discuss, because people who \
run<br> >> eyeball networks may get queries on this from customers, and FB is \
Rilly<br> >> Big.<br>
>><br>
>> Be careful out there, people...<br>
>><br>
>> Next on the docket: TikTok and it's (arguably) CCP-controlled \
ownership.<br> >><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>> -- jra<br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Jay R. Ashworth Baylink<br>
>> <a href="mailto:jra@baylink.com" target="_blank">jra@baylink.com</a><br>
>> Designer The Things I Think \
RFC<br> >> 2100<br>
>> Ashworth & Associates <a href="http://www.bcp38.info" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.bcp38.info</a> 2000 \
Land<br> >> Rover DII<br>
>> St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 \
727 647<br> >> 1274<br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
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target="_blank">Outages-discussion@outages.org</a><br> >> <a \
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>><br> > <br>
> <br>
> --<br>
> Jeff Ollie<br>
> The majestik møøse is one of the mäni interesting furry animals in \
Sweden.<br> <br>
-- <br>
Jay R. Ashworth Baylink \
<a href="mailto:jra@baylink.com" target="_blank">jra@baylink.com</a><br> Designer \
The Things I Think RFC 2100<br> Ashworth & \
Associates <a href="http://www.bcp38.info" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">http://www.bcp38.info</a> 2000 Land Rover DII<br> St \
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