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Subject:    Re: [Outages-discussion] [EXTERNAL] Re:  It wasn't just AT&T; every carrier was impacted.  Why?
From:       Daniel Marks via Outages-discussion <outages-discussion () outages ! org>
Date:       2024-02-22 17:19:26
Message-ID: A067D060-4C2B-4901-A5D4-0A71EFB59FCE () maymobility ! com
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We have cellular uplinks scattered around the lower 48 and the only issues we've seen \
are on AT&T. 

> On Feb 22, 2024, at 12:02, Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal) via Outages-discussion \
> <outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote: 
> I'm sorry, Andy.  I must have emailed the outages-condescension listserv in error.  \
> My apologies. 
> Does anyone else have an insight about why the outage affected every one?  Was \
> AT&T's infrastructure really the source of the disruption as Andy says?  If so, \
> does this highlight a potential problem of a private company having too much \
> control over a critical piece of public infrastructure? 
> ...or did the equipment upgrade at the 33 Thomas Street NSA listening outpost not \
> go as planned?  :-D  
> —Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Feb 22, 2024, at 8:53 AM, Andy Ringsmuth via Outages-discussion \
> > <outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > > On Feb 22, 2024, at 10:41 AM, Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal) via \
> > > Outages-discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote: 
> > > Take a look at this scrolling screenshot the reports from Downdetector: every \
> > > major carrier had some issue, with reports spiking around the same time.   
> > > Link: "https://www.google.com/url?q=https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://imgur.co \
> > > m/gallery/O3sm3qy__;!!PIZeeW5wscynRQ!rv688OpWswUnLFdugjEzHYHhrlS2Omb0viPzs_V1eR1 \
> > > 5-dTlj2DMBGFbdnd9ZCzHvQWXZ5eTLtMUv_BAOi6YvfTmRfRxltw$&source=gmail-imap&ust=1709226217000000&usg=AOvVaw1CS-HV5J9PiQrfEsxms7HR \
> > > " 
> > > Someone commented on this post already about a "SIM Card database issue."
> > > 
> > > Is that a credible explanation?  If so, how and why?
> > > 
> > > -Brad
> > 
> > DownDetector is mostly garbage. It consists of 100% user-submitted reports.
> > 
> > But the tech illiterate media has no clue, so they take it as gospel and run with \
> > it. 
> > If you are a T-Mobile customer and calling your girlfriend or boss or whomever \
> > and they are an AT&T customer, and it doesn't go through, who do you blame? \
> > T-Mobile of course. Even though they were not at fault. 
> > Also, how many of those MVNOs actually use AT&T's infrastructure? Quite a few.
> > 
> > That's what is going on with the other reports on DownDetector.
> > 
> > Again, repeat after me: DownDetector is not an official source. DownDetector is \
> > not an official source. DownDetector is not an official source. 
> > 
> > -Andy
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