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Subject:    Re: [Outages-discussion] [outages] DHCP being dropped by Lumen?
From:       Jared Mauch <jared () puck ! nether ! net>
Date:       2022-06-11 19:08:29
Message-ID: F1F37348-FA28-4DEC-9B51-B2657AE54F2B () puck ! nether ! net
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Yes one needs to be careful what the IPTF is doing as they have nearly an entire set \
of areas dedicated to privacy and making managing networks harder. 

The privacy area (sometimes confused with security, which is unrelated) is focused on \
only short lived transactions and not securing anything long term like routing \
protocols. You should expect only fixes for things that look or fit in HTTP or can be \
encoded easily to JSON.

It's disappointing how that's been hijacked when real availability issues like UDP \
based attacks that require the blocking of protocols that do amplification are not \
addressed and can't get any assistance from security experts vs the privacy types. 

- Jared 
(Internet Privacy Task Force, a play on words) 

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> On Jun 11, 2022, at 1:50 PM, David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org> wrote:
> 
> On Jun 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Blake Hudson <blake@ispn.net> wrote:
> > Why would one add VPN endpoints that will act as another point of failure?
> 
> You might look at the rationales for DNS over TLS and DNS over HTTPS.
> 
> > One's MAC address and IP address are not exactly the most sensitive info.
> 
> Exposure of MAC addresses led to IPv6 privacy extensions.  IP addresses have, in \
> certain circumstances, been declared personally identifying information by courts \
> in the EU.  Not sure if either of these apply in this context, however I suspect \
> you'll be surprised to learn what privacy advocates consider sensitive. 
> Regards,
> -drc
> 
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