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Subject:    [OSGeo-Discuss]  Polling charter members
From:       "Helmut Kudrnovsky" <hellik () web ! de>
Date:       2014-09-18 17:43:02
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<div>I second Jachym and Peter.</div>

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<div>&gt;Peter Baumann:<br/>
&gt;<br/>
&gt;HI all,<br/>
&gt;<br/>
&gt;As there is a request for Charter Members to chime in, here my 2 cents:<br/>
&gt;<br/>
&gt;The issue on hand is highlighting excellently the need for effective and<br/>
&gt;efficient decision procedures based on mandates.<br/>
&gt;OSGeo has but embarked on establishing these, currently discussions are \
driven<br/> &gt;more by gut feeling than by ordered bylaws and procedures. The fact \
that there<br/> &gt;are projects in incubation for 4.5 years [1] and still not done \
underlines this.<br/> &gt;<br/>
&gt;A grassroots mindset is good for gathering people initially, but to exercise<br/>
&gt;impact at large we need efficient, agreed decision structures. With some of \
the<br/> &gt;last posts I see that we are embarking in this direction, and I very \
much<br/> &gt;applaude to that.</div>

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<pre><i>Jachym Cepicky:</i>
&gt;&gt;So, now
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<div>&gt;&gt; we are here, things are happening, we can finally talk to whole<br/>
&gt;&gt; community, because of this IMHO *is* important topic - two big<br/>
&gt;&gt; organisations are trying to find a way, how to cooperate in the future<br/>
&gt;&gt; for better free and open source software for geospatial! This is good.<br/>
&gt;&gt; If for nothing else, then for clarifying OSGeo&#39;s position.</div>

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<div>on the horizon I see 3 (already worked on) tasks of the OSGeo foundation:</div>

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<div>(a) service/infrastructure provider for foss4g projects,<br/>
(b) open minded community nucleus of foss4g spirit,<br/>
(c) business support for foss4g</div>

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<div>as OSGeo is happily growing :-) and has reached a &quot;critical&quot; size, \
well reviewed structures are needed to work on all or some of these tasks, alone or \
in cooperation with other organisations ... let&#39;s find OSGeo&#39;s \
position.</div>

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<div>best</div>

<div>Helmut</div>

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<div>OSGeo: wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Hellik</div>

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-webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">&gt;Peter Baumann:<br/> &gt;<br/>
&gt;HI all,<br/>
&gt;<br/>
&gt;As there is a request for Charter Members to chime in, here my 2 cents:<br/>
&gt;<br/>
&gt;The issue on hand is highlighting excellently the need for effective and<br/>
&gt;efficient decision procedures based on mandates.<br/>
&gt;OSGeo has but embarked on establishing these, currently discussions are \
driven<br/> &gt;more by gut feeling than by ordered bylaws and procedures. The fact \
that there<br/> &gt;are projects in incubation for 4.5 years [1] and still not done \
underlines this.<br/> &gt;<br/>
&gt;A grassroots mindset is good for gathering people initially, but to exercise<br/>
&gt;impact at large we need efficient, agreed decision structures. With some of \
the<br/> &gt;last posts I see that we are embarking in this direction, and I very \
much<br/> &gt;applaude to that.<br/>
&gt;<br/>
&gt;cheers,<br/>
&gt;Peter<br/>
&gt;<br/>
&gt;[1] http://rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeo<br/>
&gt;<br/>
&gt;<br/>
&gt;On 09/18/2014 09:59 AM, Ravi Kumar wrote:<br/>
&gt;&gt; This &#39; LocationTech and OSGeo collaboration &#39;, appears to be some \
thing that<br/> &gt;&gt; the OSGeo Charter should involve and motivate opinion etc. \
Those at the helm<br/> &gt;&gt; may pl post a summary of the, &#39;storey so \
far&#39;.<br/> &gt;&gt;<br/>
&gt;&gt;<br/>
&gt;&gt; On Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:23 AM, Jachym Cepicky<br/>
&gt;&gt; &lt;jachym.cepicky at gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br/>
&gt;&gt;<br/>
&gt;&gt;<br/>
&gt;&gt; Just noting,<br/>
&gt;&gt;<br/>
&gt;&gt; discussion about relationship between LocationTech and OSGeo is here<br/>
&gt;&gt; since 2012 (IIRC). That many people did not pain attention to it<br/>
&gt;&gt; (actually including myself up to certain time), is not fault of OSGeo<br/>
&gt;&gt; .. or LocationTech.<br/>
&gt;&gt;<br/>
&gt;&gt; It&#39;s just actually boring topic. We are community of (mostly)<br/>
&gt;&gt; developers and users of FOSS4G (not conference, but software in this<br/>
&gt;&gt; case). This sounds like politics .. who would pay attention? So, now<br/>
&gt;&gt; we are here, things are happening, we can finally talk to whole<br/>
&gt;&gt; community, because of this IMHO *is* important topic - two big<br/>
&gt;&gt; organisations are trying to find a way, how to cooperate in the future<br/>
&gt;&gt; for better free and open source software for geospatial! This is good.<br/>
&gt;&gt; If for nothing else, then for clarifying OSGeo&#39;s position.<br/>
&gt;&gt;<br/>
&gt;&gt; Jachym
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