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Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G North America Announcements
From: Margherita Di Leo <dileomargherita () gmail ! com>
Date: 2013-01-16 18:04:25
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Hi,
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 5:58 PM, David William Bitner
<bitner@dbspatial.com>wrote:
> Dave,
>
> As indicated by Jeff and Doug, this has not been an issue at any previous
> FOSS4G event. What has been an issue has been the diversity that we have
> been able to bring into both our community and our events. We are still a
> predominantly White European/US/Canadian male community. There has been a
> lot of work done by many tech conferences to try to make sure that
> conferences are more welcoming to a more broad array of folks (the rotation
> of NA/Europe/Elsewhere is one thing FOSS4G has done). The
> anti-harassment policy follows the lead of others and pulls from the
> template provided by Geek Feminism
> http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/index.php?title=Conference_anti-harassment_policy.
> Additionally following advice from other events as well as many members of
> our community, we are making the community review process for presentation
> submission author anonymous as a concern with how we have done this in the
> past has been the fear that many folks have of feeling publicly shamed with
> critique and voting of their proposals. These are only two small steps that
> we are taking to addressing an environment in the overall open source world
> that by the numbers is very unwelcome to women and other groups (while
> there have not been any overt issues that I know of as part of any FOSS4G,
> if you look at the percentage of female conference goers or developers in
> our community, we do have a long ways to go).
>
Thank you for rising this interesting topic. I don't exactly know why women
(according to the numbers) prefer other fields instead of open source
software (as I am a woman and I feel comfortable in this community maybe
I'm not the right person to ask why other people don't). But I can
certainly say why many people don't (can't) join the events.. as I wasn't
able to do so as well.. Please don't take it bad, but the FOSS4G event is
bloody *expensive* to afford! I am not surprised not to see at such events
many people from developing countries, while in Europe and especially in
US, research institutions allocate more funds for missions etc.
my 2 cents
madi
>
> Hope this helps understand the rationale,
>
> David
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Jeff McKenna <
> jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com> wrote:
>
>> DaveP,
>>
>> There have been no specific problems at FOSS4G events but I support the
>> FOSS4G-NA's initiative for diversity and harassment-free policies.
>>
>> -jeff
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13-01-16 12:56 AM, Dave Patton wrote:
>> >
>> > David et al:
>> >
>> > I have no issue with the Harassment Policy, but I am curious
>> > as to it's origin. Is it a result of specific problems at
>> > other FOSS4G-related events?
>> >
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
>
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Institute for Environment and Sustainability (IES). Unit H03 – FRC
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Hi,<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 5:58 PM, David William \
Bitner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bitner@dbspatial.com" \
target="_blank">bitner@dbspatial.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div dir="ltr">Dave,<div><br></div><div>As indicated by Jeff \
and Doug, this has not been an issue at any previous FOSS4G event. What has been an \
issue has been the diversity that we have been able to bring into both our community \
and our events. We are still a predominantly White European/US/Canadian male \
community. There has been a lot of work done by many tech conferences to try to make \
sure that conferences are more welcoming to a more broad array of folks (the rotation \
of NA/Europe/Elsewhere is one thing FOSS4G has done). The anti-harassment policy \
follows the lead of others and pulls from the template provided by Geek Feminism <a \
href="http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/index.php?title=Conference_anti-harassment_policy" \
target="_blank">http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/index.php?title=Conference_anti-harassment_policy</a>. \
Additionally following advice from other events as well as many members of our \
community, we are making the community review process for presentation submission \
author anonymous as a concern with how we have done this in the past has been the \
fear that many folks have of feeling publicly shamed with critique and voting of \
their proposals. These are only two small steps that we are taking to addressing an \
environment in the overall open source world that by the numbers is very unwelcome to \
women and other groups (while there have not been any overt issues that I know of as \
part of any FOSS4G, if you look at the percentage of female conference goers or \
developers in our community, we do have a long ways to go).</div> \
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thank you for rising this interesting topic. I \
don't exactly know why women (according to the numbers) prefer other fields \
instead of open source software (as I am a woman and I feel comfortable in this \
community maybe I'm not the right person to ask why other people don't). But \
I can certainly say why many people don't (can't) join the events.. as I \
wasn't able to do so as well.. Please don't take it bad, but the FOSS4G event \
is bloody *expensive* to afford! I am not surprised not to see at such events many \
people from developing countries, while in Europe and especially in US, research \
institutions allocate more funds for missions etc.</div> <div><br></div><div>my 2 \
cents</div><div><br></div><div>madi</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">
<div><br></div><div>Hope this helps understand the \
rationale,</div><div><br></div><div>David</div></div><div \
class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan \
16, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Jeff McKenna <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com" \
target="_blank">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">DaveP,<br> <br>
There have been no specific problems at FOSS4G events but I support the<br>
FOSS4G-NA's initiative for diversity and harassment-free policies.<br>
<span><font color="#888888"><br>
-jeff<br>
</font></span><div><br>
<br>
<br>
On 13-01-16 12:56 AM, Dave Patton wrote:<br>
><br>
> David et al:<br>
><br>
> I have no issue with the Harassment Policy, but I am curious<br>
> as to it's origin. Is it a result of specific problems at<br>
> other FOSS4G-related events?<br>
><br>
<br>
<br>
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<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><span \
style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:'Times New \
Roman';border-spacing:0px;font-size:medium"><span \
style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><div> <font color="#666666">Margherita DI \
LEO </font></div><div><font color="#666666">Postdoctoral \
Researcher</font></div><div><font color="#666666"><br></font></div><div><font \
color="#666666">European Commission - DG JRC </font></div> <div><font \
color="#666666">Institute for Environment and Sustainability (IES). Unit H03 – \
FRC</font></div><div><font color="#666666">Via Fermi, 2749</font></div><div><font \
color="#666666">I-21027 Ispra (VA) - Italy - TP 261</font></div> <div><font \
color="#666666"> </font></div><div><font color="#666666">Tel. +39 0332 78 \
3600 </font></div><div><font color="#666666"><a \
href="mailto:margherita.di-leo@jrc.ec.europa.eu" \
target="_blank">margherita.di-leo@jrc.ec.europa.eu</a></font></div> <div><font \
color="#666666"><br></font></div><div><font color="#666666">Disclaimer: The views \
expressed are purely those of the writer and may not in any circumstance be regarded \
as stating an official position of the European Commission.</font></div> \
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