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Subject: Re: [lsb-discuss] LSB; was: Re: starting Fedora Server SIG (fwd)
From: R P Herrold <herrold () owlriver ! com>
Date: 2008-11-12 19:56:31
Message-ID: alpine.LRH.2.00.0811121430280.30887 () arj ! bjyevire ! pbz
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I guess I was wrong -- Red Hat (and its development proxy
Fedora) does not care about LSB, nor improving things within
the LSB framework. (see attached after my .sig)
> "we'll just choose to ignore LSB, like, say, every Linux
> ISV does"
The question that I have voiced on calls: for the decloaking
of "Linux ISV's" is really something that LSB needs to address
-- if no ISV steps up and says: 'well yes, certification DOES
matter to us', I think 'spot' has probably it right, and we
can stop re-arranging the deck chairs.
My invitation was clearly irrelevant in Fedora space when the
invitation was shot down in under ten minutes by a dual-hatted
Fedora Project Board member, and '@redhat.com' who "has worked
for Red Hat since 2001, and is currently the Fedora
Engineering Manager. A founding member of the Fedora Steering
Committee, and the chair of the Fedora Packaging Committee
..."
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board#Members
Ted, the Red Hat ball is in your hands; Kay, will any of the
'several hundred' ISV's step forward?
-- Russ herrold
ps -- the reference to 'ManBearPig' was unknown to me:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ManBearPig
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:04:50
From: Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa@redhat.com>
Reply-To: Development discussions related to Fedora
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To: Development discussions related to Fedora <fedora-devel-list@redhat.com>
Subject: fedora-d-rh] Re: LSB; was: Re: starting Fedora Server SIG
On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 12:55 -0500, R P Herrold wrote:
> I predict that when LSB 4.0 releases, there will be much
> wailing and gnashing of teeth, because no-one from Fedora has
> 'been at the table' arguing (and getting the consensus and
> running code in place for) the 'Server SIG' need case.
Either that, or we'll just choose to ignore LSB, like, say,
every Linux ISV does.
Don't get me wrong, the idea of an LSB is sound, but somewhere
between implementation and adoption, things somehow went
wrong, and we ended up with ManBearPig.
~spot
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