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List:       openvpn-users
Subject:    Re: [Openvpn-users] http-encapsulation
From:       Jan Just Keijser <janjust () nikhef ! nl>
Date:       2020-02-17 13:41:57
Message-ID: 7a9617d4-3155-edf7-adc5-4c37368bb270 () nikhef ! nl
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Hi Hans,


On 13/02/20 10:15, Hans via Openvpn-users wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Is there anyone around here, that performed a measurement what the 
> impact is of doing http-encapsusation (http-proxy) with openvpn?
>
> My case:
>
> - Client & servers are on a (huge) LAN
>
> - client is 2.4.6, servers are 2.4.7
>
> - Setting up a vpn connection with UDP, doing a ping toward machine 
> behind the server, I get a latency of 10-20mS
>
> - Setting up a vpn connection with TCP and http-proxy, doing a ping 
> toward machine behind the server, I get a latency of 200-340mS
>
> I cannot imagine that the process of encapsulation and peeling out by 
> the reversed proxy requires the same amount of time (extra 200++ mS) 
> that is equivalent of a transatlantic round trip.
>
> The reversed proxy, and the network around it are both beyond my control.
>
>
FWIW: I have just tested this myself, using OpenVPN 2.4.8 and apache 
mod_proxy, with no additional configuration or tuning other than 
"--http-proxy A.B.C.D 80 " :  the latency did *not* go up when testing 
this from my home address to the server's address. In a high speed LAN 
environment the latency went from sub millisecond level to  ~2 ms  .

You can try playing with --tcp-nodelay on the server to see if that 
helps. Also, I assume that your ping latency tests were using *SMALL* 
packets - if not, then tuning the tun-mtu size might help

HTH,

JJK


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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Hans,<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 13/02/20 10:15, Hans via Openvpn-users wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Hi
            all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
            lang="EN-US">Is there anyone around here, that performed a
            measurement what the impact is of doing http-encapsusation
            (http-proxy) with openvpn?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
            lang="EN-US">My case:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
            lang="EN-US">- Client &amp; servers are on a (huge) LAN<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
            lang="EN-US">- client is 2.4.6, servers are 2.4.7<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
            lang="EN-US">- Setting up a vpn connection with UDP, doing a
            ping toward machine behind the server, I get a latency of
            10-20mS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
            lang="EN-US">- Setting up a vpn connection with TCP and
            http-proxy, doing a ping toward machine behind the server, I
            get a latency of 200-340mS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
            lang="EN-US">I cannot imagine that the process of
            encapsulation and peeling out by the reversed proxy requires
            the same amount of time (extra 200++ mS) that is equivalent
            of a transatlantic round trip.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
            lang="EN-US">The reversed proxy, and the network around it
            are both beyond my control.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
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        <br>
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    </blockquote>
    FWIW: I have just tested this myself, using OpenVPN 2.4.8 and apache
    mod_proxy, with no additional configuration or tuning other than
    "--http-proxy A.B.C.D 80 " :  the latency did *not* go up when
    testing this from my home address to the server's address. In a high
    speed LAN environment the latency went from sub millisecond level
    to  ~2 ms  .  <br>
    <br>
    You can try playing with --tcp-nodelay on the server to see if that
    helps. Also, I assume that your ping latency tests were using
    *SMALL* packets - if not, then tuning the tun-mtu size might help <br>
    <br>
    HTH,<br>
    <br>
    JJK<br>
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