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List:       opensuse-packaging
Subject:    Re: [opensuse-packaging] rpmlint rules for /var/run
From:       Neal Gompa <ngompa13 () gmail ! com>
Date:       2018-12-11 11:22:24
Message-ID: CAEg-Je9wXAF6ON00hpvYwsE_PFVabS9AgoYv5OLiSvZJ_761Lw () mail ! gmail ! com
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On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 5:53 AM Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@inai.de> wrote:
>
> On Tuesday 2018-12-11 11:36, Ludwig Nussel wrote:
>
> > Jan Engelhardt schrieb:
> >> On Tuesday 2018-12-11 02:38, Neal Gompa wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I would have already taken a look at doing so, if it weren't for the
> >>> fact that openSUSE systemd is a fork that regularly runs behind
> >>> upstream. It's depressing to see that SUSE engineers aren't
> >>> contributing their changes to systemd upstream so that they don't need
> >>> to maintain such heavy forks. This problem also exists with dracut,
> >>
> >> it's "because of SLE". When you try to submit an update to
> >> Base:System/systemd, the answer is potentially "yeah ... but we'd
> >> want to share it between SLE...". Surely you can tell a maintenance
> >
> > There are times when that argument makes more sense and there are
> > times when it makes less. Right now I'd expect Factory to follow
> > upstream closely with both projects.
>
> system: 239+suse138 (some 120 loose patches tied up in a git repo as
> commits) vs. upstream 240. Close enough.
>

So there was a rebase recently. Last I looked it wasn't systemd 239.

> dracut: v44 (release date 2015-Nov) + 200 loose patches
>     vs. upstream 49. A bit far from "closely".

Yep.

The other issue is that both of them have a large chunk of
non-upstreamed changes (which seems to be depressingly par for the
course here), which makes it *really hard* for openSUSE to track
upstream releases.

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