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Subject: openSUSE Release Engineering Meeting 26.01.2022
From: ddemaio <ddemaio () suse ! de>
Date: 2022-01-26 12:58:48
Message-ID: 3ff95b21-9b7f-a845-74bb-0ff349409465 () suse ! de
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All meeting minutes can be found here:
https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting
Meeting is hosted here
https://meet.opensuse.org/ReleaseEngineeringMeeting
## Attendees
ddemaio, dleuenberger, guillaumeg, Sarah, rbrown, deneb_alpha, gp,
sbahling,mlin, marcus
## Leap
* No new Leap build this week, packages are still rebuilding after
updated pool-leap-15.4
Lubos will be on vacation 15th - 26th Jan
## openSUSE Tumbleweed
* Kernel 5.16.1 is in Tumbleweed, 5.16.2, with CVE fix, scheduled for
checkin (staging almost done)
* Wicked is phasing out. New installations of Tumbleweed are all done by
default using NetworkManager (not only desktop, but also server
installs). nmtui is the tool to configure it. Upgraders are not (yet)
planned to be migrated away from wicked.
* Python 3.6 being EOL, removal of python36-FOO modules ongoing. Last
week: 142 left, now 106
* Ruby 3.1, incl. switch of default ruby, is in Staging:L - apparmor
missing, no visible progress
* GCC 12 pre-integration tests started (Staging:Gcc7); Scheduled for
actual merge in April/May
## Richard (Kubic/TW MicroOS)
Syncing missing packages from Factory that are perfectly valid but only
existing in devel:kubic (devel/package maintainers please send your good
stuff to Factory!)
Experimented with kiwi-less, container-first VM image building. Have a
working prototype that works entirely in OBS, builds a container using a
Dockerfile, takes that container then converts it to a working,
bootable, openSUSE VM.
Investigating adding nerdctl support to Toolbox
Investigating buildkit and its limits as a container builder
working on a tool to convert existing Tumbleweed (and maybe also Leap)
systems to MicroOS and/or MicroOS Desktop
## Max
* Dropping python2 from Leap 15.4
https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issue/15: skippkg-finder is done
https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-tools/pull/2686, the first
verification run has been done, the attribute has been updated for that,
see OSRT:Config at https://build.opensuse.org/attribs/openSUSE:Leap:15.4
, the next step is wait a new Leap build finish, poke the repodata, back
to adjust the attribute, then skippkg-finder can catch up with it,
repeat until uninstallable problem to be 0
* Still a bunch of submission are pending for legal review
## Guillaume - Arm
Tumbleweed:
* Rolling
* Upcoming GCC 12 tested for aarch64:
https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:dirkmueller:branches:openSUSE:Factory:Staging:Gcc7
* Tests of openSUSE Tumbleweed on The Pinebook Pro showed some issues.
Tracked on https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1194491
Leap 15.4:
* opencl-headers package is outdated in Leap 15.4 / SLE15-SP4:
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193617 This prevent armnn
to build with opencl support enabled. => SR
https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/944701 has been mirrored.
Release of maintenance incident is scheduled on 2022-02-09
* aarch64:
* Go compiler from SLE still lacks ld.gold which is still
required. THis make some packages to fail to build (e.g.
openSUSE:Backports:SLE-15-SP4/rclone). Bug opened since Leap 15.3:
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1183043
* armv7:
* armv7 images are not tested in openQA yet, because JeOS-efi
image does not build properly due to an armv7 kernel bug with btrfs and
lzo compression: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193852
## Sarah - s390x
Tumbleweed:
* Reboot does not work:
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193889
Leap:
* Test issue based on BSC1167736 fixed. Leap tests for s390x and
Backports should work again.
https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/81685
Bugfix from IBM because of race in testing phase:
https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1188896
## Doug
* Article about new openSUSE equipment
https://news.opensuse.org/2022/01/25/os-gains-new-hardeware/
* Dyad (software.o.o.) proposal
- PackageHub working on supporting documentation
* Had further discussion during community meeting
* Mock up about envisioned concept likely to be presented at a
furture community meeting
* openSUSE Conference
* Will have t-shirt and poster design contest
* Article to be published
* wiki created https://en.opensuse.org/TshirtoSC22
* Communicating with Z-Bau on technical needs
* Need feedback from video team
* Need help with setup of network
* Still waiting on contract to be signed
* Conferences
* SCALE has been rescheduled July 28-31
* We will have a stand at FOSDEM
* DEADLINE - Google Summer of Code
* Application period from Feb. 7 to 21 (deadline)
* Annual survey is live until Feb. 27 - https://survey.opensuse.org
* Almost 1,000 responses
* CentOS would like to create a closer relationship with openSUSE
Community
* metrics.o.o.
* missing aggregated data and logs
## Dirk
worked on rebuild trigger script issues for 15.3:ARM and 15.4:ARM
Watched GCC 12 fallout on aarch64, some fixes
Helped a bit on python 3.10 fallout in tumbleweed
## Gerald / Board
Happy to see distros work together - that's a good thing!
(Referring to Doug's note re CentOS above.)
## Wolfgang (Package Hub), Scott Bahling
Not available
## Maintenance team (Marina or Marcus, Maurizio (m4u))
- Marina: opencl-headers currently under QA. Release scheduled on
2022-02-09
- Marcus: 15.2 EOL notice posted, bots and channels disabled
- Marcus: 15.3 is operating GREEN
- Marcus: 15.4 is set up channel wise, some updates will go in testing
occasionaly, if you need more ping me, no openqa setup yet
## Adrian - OBS
Not available
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<p>All meeting minutes can be found here: <a class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" \
href="https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting" target="_blank" \
rel="noopener noreferrer">https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting</a><br \
/>Meeting is hosted here <a class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" \
href="https://meet.opensuse.org/ReleaseEngineeringMeeting" target="_blank" \
rel="noopener noreferrer">https://meet.opensuse.org/ReleaseEngineeringMeeting</a><br \
/><br />## Attendees<br />ddemaio, dleuenberger, guillaumeg, Sarah, rbrown, \
deneb_alpha, gp, sbahling,mlin, marcus<br /><br />## Leap<br />* No new Leap build \
this week, packages are still rebuilding after updated pool-leap-15.4<br /><br \
/>Lubos will be on vacation 15th - 26th Jan<br /><br />## openSUSE Tumbleweed<br \
/><br />* Kernel 5.16.1 is in Tumbleweed, 5.16.2, with CVE fix, scheduled for checkin \
(staging almost done)<br />* Wicked is phasing out. New installations of Tumbleweed \
are all done by default using NetworkManager (not only desktop, but also server \
installs). nmtui is the tool to configure it. Upgraders are not (yet) planned to be \
migrated away from wicked.<br />* Python 3.6 being EOL, removal of python36-FOO \
modules ongoing. Last week: 142 left, now 106<br />* Ruby 3.1, incl. switch of \
default ruby, is in Staging:L - apparmor missing, no visible progress<br />* GCC 12 \
pre-integration tests started (Staging:Gcc7); Scheduled for actual merge in \
April/May<br /><br /><br />## Richard (Kubic/TW MicroOS) <br /><br />Syncing missing \
packages from Factory that are perfectly valid but only existing in devel:kubic \
(devel/package maintainers please send your good stuff to Factory!)<br />Experimented \
with kiwi-less, container-first VM image building. Have a working prototype that \
works entirely in OBS, builds a container using a Dockerfile, takes that container \
then converts it to a working, bootable, openSUSE VM.<br />Investigating adding \
nerdctl support to Toolbox<br />Investigating buildkit and its limits as a container \
builder<br />working on a tool to convert existing Tumbleweed (and maybe also Leap) \
systems to MicroOS and/or MicroOS Desktop<br /><br />## Max<br /><br />* Dropping \
python2 from Leap 15.4 <a class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" \
href="https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issue/15" target="_blank" rel="noopener \
noreferrer">https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issue/15</a>: skippkg-finder is \
done <a class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" \
href="https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-tools/pull/2686" target="_blank" \
rel="noopener noreferrer">https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-tools/pull/2686</a>, \
the first verification run has been done, the attribute has been updated for that, \
see OSRT:Config at <a class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" \
href="https://build.opensuse.org/attribs/openSUSE:Leap:15.4" target="_blank" \
rel="noopener noreferrer">https://build.opensuse.org/attribs/openSUSE:Leap:15.4</a> , \
the next step is wait a new Leap build finish, poke the repodata, back to adjust the \
attribute, then skippkg-finder can catch up with it, repeat until uninstallable \
problem to be 0<br />* Still a bunch of submission are pending for legal review<br \
/><br />## Guillaume - Arm<br /><br />Tumbleweed:<br /> * Rolling<br \
/> * Upcoming GCC 12 tested for aarch64: <a \
class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" \
href="https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:dirkmueller:branches:openSUSE:Factory:Staging:Gcc7" \
target="_blank" rel="noopener \
noreferrer">https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:dirkmueller:branches:openSUSE:Factory:Staging:Gcc7</a><br \
/> * Tests of openSUSE Tumbleweed on The Pinebook Pro showed some issues. \
Tracked on <a class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" \
href="https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1194491" target="_blank" \
rel="noopener noreferrer">https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1194491</a><br \
/> <br />Leap 15.4:<br /> * opencl-headers package is \
outdated in Leap 15.4 / SLE15-SP4: <a class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" \
href="https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193617" target="_blank" \
rel="noopener noreferrer">https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193617</a> \
This prevent armnn to build with opencl support enabled. => SR <a \
class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/944701" \
target="_blank" rel="noopener \
noreferrer">https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/944701</a> has been mirrored. \
Release of maintenance incident is scheduled on 2022-02-09<br /> * \
aarch64: <br /> * Go compiler from SLE \
still lacks ld.gold which is still required. THis make some packages to fail to build \
(e.g. openSUSE:Backports:SLE-15-SP4/rclone). Bug opened since Leap 15.3: <a \
class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" \
href="https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1183043" target="_blank" \
rel="noopener noreferrer">https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1183043</a><br \
/> * armv7: <br /> * armv7 \
images are not tested in openQA yet, because JeOS-efi image does not build properly \
due to an armv7 kernel bug with btrfs and lzo compression: <a \
class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" \
href="https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193852" target="_blank" \
rel="noopener noreferrer">https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193852</a><br \
/><br />## Sarah - s390x<br />Tumbleweed:<br />* Reboot does not \
work: <a class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" \
href="https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193889" target="_blank" \
rel="noopener noreferrer">https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193889</a><br \
/><br />Leap:<br /> * Test issue based on BSC1167736 \
fixed. Leap tests for s390x and Backports should work again.<br /> \
<a class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/81685" \
target="_blank" rel="noopener \
noreferrer">https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/81685</a><br /> \
<br /> Bugfix from IBM because of race in testing phase: <a \
class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" \
href="https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1188896" target="_blank" \
rel="noopener noreferrer">https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1188896</a><br \
/><br />## Doug<br />* Article about new openSUSE equipment <a \
class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" \
href="https://news.opensuse.org/2022/01/25/os-gains-new-hardeware/" target="_blank" \
rel="noopener noreferrer">https://news.opensuse.org/2022/01/25/os-gains-new-hardeware/</a><br \
/>* Dyad (software.o.o.) proposal<br /><br /> - PackageHub working \
on supporting documentation<br /><br /> * Had further discussion \
during community meeting<br /><br /> * Mock up about envisioned \
concept likely to be presented at a furture community meeting<br /><br />* openSUSE \
Conference <br /><br /> * Will have t-shirt and poster design \
contest<br /><br /> * Article to be published<br /><br \
/> * wiki created <a class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" \
href="https://en.opensuse.org/TshirtoSC22" target="_blank" rel="noopener \
noreferrer">https://en.opensuse.org/TshirtoSC22</a><br /><br /> * \
Communicating with Z-Bau on technical needs<br /><br /> * Need \
feedback from video team<br /><br /> * Need help with setup of \
network<br /><br /> * Still waiting on contract to be signed<br \
/><br />* Conferences<br /><br /> * SCALE has been rescheduled July \
28-31<br /><br /> * We will have a stand at FOSDEM<br /><br />* \
DEADLINE - Google Summer of Code<br /><br /> * Application \
period from Feb. 7 to 21 (deadline)<br /><br />* Annual survey is live until Feb. 27 \
- <a class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://survey.opensuse.org" \
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://survey.opensuse.org</a><br /><br \
/> * Almost 1,000 responses<br /><br />* CentOS would like to \
create a closer relationship with openSUSE Community<br />* metrics.o.o.<br /><br \
/> * missing aggregated data and logs<br /><br /><br />## Dirk<br \
/><br />worked on rebuild trigger script issues for 15.3:ARM and 15.4:ARM<br \
/>Watched GCC 12 fallout on aarch64, some fixes<br />Helped a bit on python 3.10 \
fallout in tumbleweed<br /><br />## Gerald / Board<br /><br />Happy to see distros \
work together - that's a good thing!<br />(Referring to Doug's note re CentOS \
above.)<br /><br />## Wolfgang (Package Hub), Scott Bahling<br /><br />Not \
available<br /><br />## Maintenance team (Marina or Marcus, Maurizio (m4u))<br /><br \
/>- Marina: opencl-headers currently under QA. Release scheduled on 2022-02-09<br />- \
Marcus: 15.2 EOL notice posted, bots and channels disabled<br />- Marcus: 15.3 is \
operating GREEN<br />- Marcus: 15.4 is set up channel wise, some updates will go in \
testing occasionaly, if you need more ping me, no openqa setup yet<br /><br />## \
Adrian - OBS <br />Not available<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /></p> \
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