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List:       opensuse-factory
Subject:    Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Tumbleweed update to 20200201 removed /etc/services
From:       Simon Lees <sflees () suse ! de>
Date:       2020-02-11 9:18:58
Message-ID: 6103537d-5410-ca1d-5399-09f496b0aa59 () suse ! de
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On 2/10/20 1:09 AM, L A Walsh wrote:
> On 2020/02/04 10:06, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
>> Am 04.02.20 um 18:45 schrieb Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar:
>>   
>>> On Tue, 2020-02-04 at 17:21 +0100, Axel Braun wrote:
>>>       
>>>>> in short: check /etc/nsswitch.conf; you very likely have a .rpmnew
>>>>> lying next to it. Merge the changes.
>>>>>                
>>>> Anything a package maintainer needs to do?
>>>>            
>>> No; this is all on users that ignore .rpmsave and .rpmnew files.
>>>        
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>      But if their system doesn't come up, how will they be able to look at
> them?
> 
> 
>      Moving the location of standard linux config and administration
> files from /etc/ (only been there for about 50 years), to /usr has to be
> one of the less well thought out changes -- only if you have a suse-only
> system that isn't used for any user or customer purpose where they would
> have
> to load and/or configure any non-suse software might this possibly work
> and even
> then its a very dangerous move.   At the most basic, you are moving away
> from unix and posix compatibility which will disqualify opensuse as a
> base for a huge number of applications that need such compatibility.   If
> you
> are talking opensuse out of the linux/unix/posix compatible category, then
> you might justify it, but too many non-suse applications expect files in
> well documented, fixed locations.
> 
>      Again, you break the source of things on 'root' and point symlinks
> off to /usr which may not even be mounted yet.   Suse can claim it
> doesn't support
> various user preferences and methodologies that have been used for
> scores of years,
> but this has a potential of being noticeably worse than the systemd
> change-over.
> 
>      I admit to my lack of knowledge here, but is this the path Redhat is
> taking
> and sorta not giving Suse a choice if Suse remains a Redhat derivative?

Well SUSE has never been a Redhat derivative, Redhat is solving the same
problem in a different way by moving the files somewhere else, I don't
remember where but all the info is in the thread from June titled "RFC:
configuration files in /etc" so that is the best place to read if you
want to understand why this change exists.

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