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List:       opensuse-factory
Subject:    Re: [opensuse-factory] Adjusting desktop defaults to reflect project realities
From:       Todd Rme <toddrme2178 () gmail ! com>
Date:       2017-04-18 14:45:44
Message-ID: CADb7s=tWRx7Tp3dS_DtOup=mh=Sn0c66UD9UDyRKy6H-3H5k7A () mail ! gmail ! com
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On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Richard Brown <RBrownCCB@opensuse.org> wrote:
> On 18 April 2017 at 16:28, Todd Rme <toddrme2178@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Tomas Chvatal <tchvatal@suse.cz> wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Given the latest thread about the desktop on our bellowed factory
>>> mailing list I would like to propose the following:
>>>
>>> "Desktop selection dialogue won't have preselected any default value."
>>
>> We already had an enormous discussion about this when the decision was
>> made to select KDE as the default some years back. Please look at the
>> mailing list discussions on the topic. If, after reading those
>> discussion you have something to add, please explain what that is. But
>> repeating the exact same arguments that were made when the decision
>> was originally adopted isn't going to benefit anyone.
>
> I think the argument that 'we made a decision in the past' is not a
> valid counter to Tomas' suggestion.
>
> Things change, KDE has changed, GNOME has changed, the linux desktop
> ecosystem has changed, the Project in particular has changed
> dramatically.
>
> When that decision was made we offered one distribution, with a key
> audience clearly being 'new linux users'.
> We are now a project that offers two distributions, clearly stateing
> our target audience is "SysAdmins, Developers, and Power Users".
>
> I will reserve my opinion on this topic for now, because I want to
> join the conversation after others have had an opportunity to share
> their opinion.
>
> But I will counter any suggestion that this is not a valid discussion.
> It is, and it should be encouraged and engaged with, not dismissed.

I didn't say it was a counter, I said that this discussion shouldn't
just repeat the exact same arguments that were already made. If Thomas
has something new to add to the discussion, that is fine. But
repeating the exact same discussion over and over doesn't help
anybody.
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