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List:       opensuse-factory
Subject:    Re: [opensuse-factory] changing distro freeze limit
From:       Markus Slopianka <markus.s () kdemail ! net>
Date:       2011-11-28 22:55:00
Message-ID: 201111282355.01022.markus.s () kdemail ! net
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On Montag 28 November 2011 22:34:06 Kim Leyendecker wrote:
> Anyway, could you please add a link? I still can ´t believe it....
> Really, that ´s just bullshit.

My original complaint was a formal bug report regarding that openSUSE ships some untested 
snapshot of alpha-quality Chromium as part of the standard repository:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=731832

Then Raymond brought that issue to the Project mailing list (not Factory, btw):
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2011-11/msg00144.html
In that mail he also writes that the "current procedure" is a "weekly update" (= a new 
untested snapshot every week as regular update).

Nelson, who called my mail in this thread irony, then told me I should rather be grateful 
that Chromium is packaged at all than trying to point out to the packaging rules:
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2011-11/msg00148.html

SUSE Linux Products GmbH employees also wrote that shipping untested snapshots is 
absolutely fine.
İsmail Dönmez for example:
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2011-11/msg00155.html

My favourite reaction of a SUSE employee was the one from Pavol Rusnak who wrote that if 
one wants a rock-solid package, depending on openSUSE is wrong anyway and that the person 
should get official Google Chrome from a 3rd party (Google in this case): 
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2011-11/msg00159.html

Other non-SUSE community members also agreed with Raymond that shipping weekly untested 
snapshots is fine with only myself and Stephan Kulow (in a bug report comment) preferring 
tested build.

So effectively the policy of freezes and quality assurance was overthrown because 
'Chromium is shiny' or whatever the proponents of untested weekly snapshots thought...

Markus
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