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Subject:    Re: [opensuse-factory] The plan to speed up openSUSE 11.2
From:       Sid Boyce <sboyce () blueyonder ! co ! uk>
Date:       2009-05-27 15:29:59
Message-ID: 4A1D5C77.6000406 () blueyonder ! co ! uk
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Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2009/05/27 13:44 (GMT+0200) Martin Schlander composed:
> 
>> But every app in both KDE and GNOME (cold) starting very noticably faster, in 
>> seemingly just about any other distro on the same hardware, is something that 
>> should be taken seriously.
> 
>> *The* most common complaint about openSUSE from non-fanboys and distro-
>> tourists is that "openSUSE is slow". While people usually don't specify what 
>> exactly is slow when and where, there seems to be some truth to it when it 
>> comes to application (cold) startup.
> 
>> People usually assume it's caused by the starting of a few additional services 
>> compared to other distros, but I don't buy that a few extra services can make 
>> such a big difference on a modern "Vista capable" computer. I think something 
>> is wrong on a lower level - whether it is linking, file system, kernel, 
>> compile options or something else I have no clue - but I'm quite sure 
>> something is wrong somewhere.
> 
>> Like I said before, the feeling of responsiveness with regards to application 
>> startup in Mandriva 2009.0 compared to openSUSE (9.2 -> 11.1), was simply 
>> shocking.
> 
> I've run *SUSE, Fedora, Mandriva & Kubuntu (plus doz; KDE only) for years,
> but only *SUSE & OS/2 run 24/7 (11.0 on my file & web server, OS/2 for web
> use & general chores). The rest are basically for testing alphas, betas, RCs,
> and making comparisons among the various distros. The two 24/7 machines are
> always the newest hardware, meaning all the others are somewhere between
> modestly and massively slower hardware.
> 
> Startup time is just not something I pay much attention to. It nearly always
> seems slower on Linux than doz, so I'm used to "slow" startup. The only
> "speed" issue I have/had with openSUSE that I can recall is
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=447142
> 
> All that said, SuSEfirewall* & *beagle* here are always either not installed,
> or disabled in all runlevels.

That's pretty much my take and the way I run my boxes, except I run all
the other distros under VirtualBox and they are definitely quicker, but
that may be comparing eggs and oranges.
The last time I ran Mandriva (may be 2 years ago or longer) on a
standalone box, there was no noticeable difference.
The general perception in reviews is that openSUSE is slower. I shall
sort a disk out and install Fedora or Kubuntu to gauge how they stack up
standalone against openSUSE.
On my P-II/333 96M and 2M video laptop the issue was KDE, unusable under
openSUSE and quite snappy under Kubuntu, pretty much the same under
openSUSE if I used a lightweight window manager.
Regards
Sid.
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