Am 15.12.23 um 11:33 schrieb ddemaio openSUSE:
> On 2023-12-13 21:08, Daniel Bauer wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a very little bit of BTC and ETH in an online crypto place,
>> that now informed me that it will start to charge me for storing my
>> cryptos.
>>
>> So, I want to transfer it to my own computer.
>>
>> I know there is the original bitcoin wallet, but that cannot handle ETH.
>>
>> So I am looking for a free, if possible open-source, wallet that does
>> not depend on some online company and that can handle both currencies
>> (or, in the worst case, a wallet for ETH only, and handle bitcoin in
>> its original wallet).
>>
>> I don't need any sophisticated market tools. I need to be able to
>> receive and send cryptos, and maybe one day exchange them to real
>> money.
>>
>> Any hints?
>> Thanks, and have a nice evening.
> 
> I've tested out Bisq before. Another option you can try is 
> https://thorchain.org/swap There are different ways of using this chain 
> and allows for defi, so if you want to swap for certain tokens for use 
> cases there are great options. I've been doing Hivemapper and helium as 
> well, but obviously on Solana. There are several options including 
> Metamask. It just depends on what you want to do and what your use cases 
> are. Crypto and blockchain isn't just about finance as there are many 
> problems it solves. Hivemapper is a great example of this. If it's just 
> about finance and you want to self custody then there are several 
> options. If you don't care, just use an exchange. Binance will likely 
> the best option in my opinion after CZ has agreed to terms with the DOJ 
> in the US from a financially regulated point of view.
> v/r
> Doug

I certainly want a self custody wallet. I have now installed exodus, it 
looks nice...

[related off-topic rant about exchanges:]

I had bad experiences with etoro.

This is where I bought some BTC and ETH years ago (with my good luck, 
right in the moment of the highest price :-) ). I just left it there, it 
was free. From January on they will charge high fees, so I wanted to 
transfer it to an own wallet.

Etoro makes it the most complicated and expensive possible to leave its 
money-collecting-platform: you can't transfer directly to your wallet. 
You first have to install etoro's own wallet on your phone and transfer 
it to there. This costs hell a lot. Only then you can transfer it again 
to another wallet.

The worst is that you can only transfer cryptos of a minimum amount and 
you can only transfer the ones you have bought one trade by one.

I bought twice ETH for 250$. I cannot transfer those 2 buyings together. 
Because for one buying I got less ETH than etoro's transfer minimum this 
means that those 250$ are lost for me. They stay for ever at etoro 
without that I can use them.

I could withdraw them, but that means exchange them to $ again, i.e. 
realizing the loss plus paying high costs for the widthdraw.

So I would never ever again in my life use such a platform. The business 
model though is fantastic: you pay money and for this you get a number 
than you can admire on your screen, and from January on you even have to 
pay to see this number. Wow.

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