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List:       opensuse
Subject:    Re: [opensuse] Re: When I have downloads running, DNS fails.
From:       "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas () telefonica ! net>
Date:       2014-07-14 18:17:45
Message-ID: 53C41EC9.5060400 () telefonica ! net
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On 2014-07-14 19:33, Per Jessen wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:



> When I did the same, I got this:


I'm now getting a similar one, too.



> > Despite me having on /etc/named.conf
> > 
> > forwarders { 80.58.61.250; 80.58.61.254; 208.67.222.222; 8.8.8.8; };
> > forward first;
> > 
> > it is asking the root servers.
> 
> Add '+trace' to your dig options, then try again.  I have seen the same
> result sometimes, I don't know why, but usually +trace will tell you
> exactly what was queried etc.

Ah. Yes, I forgot that one.

> cer@Telcontar:~> dig +trace smtp.telefonica.net
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.9.4-rpz2.13269.14-P2 <<>> +trace smtp.telefonica.net
> ;; global options: +cmd
> .                       13036   IN      NS      b.root-servers.net.
> .                       13036   IN      NS      i.root-servers.net.
> .                       13036   IN      NS      f.root-servers.net.
> .                       13036   IN      NS      k.root-servers.net.
> .                       13036   IN      NS      j.root-servers.net.
> .                       13036   IN      NS      a.root-servers.net.
> .                       13036   IN      NS      h.root-servers.net.
> .                       13036   IN      NS      e.root-servers.net.
> .                       13036   IN      NS      d.root-servers.net.
> .                       13036   IN      NS      l.root-servers.net.
> .                       13036   IN      NS      c.root-servers.net.
> .                       13036   IN      NS      m.root-servers.net.
> .                       13036   IN      NS      g.root-servers.net.
> .                       274158  IN      RRSIG   NS 8 0 518400 20140718000000 \
> 20140710230000 8230 . op58oBsyuAXbwW21UhSYx0Tlf+cqFAhukCd8G6gYuklLD8VlihgAe69e \
> f9+jTZU5O2F9l9u5izYQecpIOOQf3TeyK9VwH1K24pjqde8vgyvFZniK \
> Wamql+IcBrMntpstPhP5gbePC9Px+YYYlVZ4d8dM/wKXw3ZMyxTASaUh LGM= ;; Received 913 bytes \
> from 192.168.1.14#53(192.168.1.14) in 1762 ms 
> net.                    172800  IN      NS      a.gtld-servers.net.
> net.                    172800  IN      NS      b.gtld-servers.net.
> net.                    172800  IN      NS      c.gtld-servers.net.
> net.                    172800  IN      NS      d.gtld-servers.net.
> net.                    172800  IN      NS      e.gtld-servers.net.
> net.                    172800  IN      NS      f.gtld-servers.net.
> net.                    172800  IN      NS      g.gtld-servers.net.
> net.                    172800  IN      NS      h.gtld-servers.net.
> net.                    172800  IN      NS      i.gtld-servers.net.
> net.                    172800  IN      NS      j.gtld-servers.net.
> net.                    172800  IN      NS      k.gtld-servers.net.
> net.                    172800  IN      NS      l.gtld-servers.net.
> net.                    172800  IN      NS      m.gtld-servers.net.
> net.                    86400   IN      DS      35886 8 2 \
> 7862B27F5F516EBE19680444D4CE5E762981931842C465F00236401D 8BD973EE net.              \
> 86400   IN      RRSIG   DS 8 1 86400 20140721000000 20140713230000 8230 . \
> hldv3ZmwyI9DRXgT5nLrpUWdWo7GBj0mDuzOGjeI6nvkFyipte81unBs \
> WjzcGg8HYe3bWqoxLlSYYrDuLC6iF1TAZO0x67KTLIRyWXnQfJ3mZ23B \
> ofPCDvbUzfAfJSPD+7AlfXewuPSFTd3PkWrprdJsx/jzp3Xk2pO5UNh6 smI= ;; Received 740 bytes \
> from 192.58.128.30#53(j.root-servers.net) in 1207 ms 
> telefonica.net.         172800  IN      NS      artemis.ttd.net.
> telefonica.net.         172800  IN      NS      marianela.tsm.es.
> A1RT98BS5QGC9NFI51S9HCI47ULJG6JH.net. 86400 IN NSEC3 1 1 0 - \
> A1RUUFFJKCT2Q54P78F8EJGJ8JBK7I8B NS SOA RRSIG DNSKEY NSEC3PARAM \
> A1RT98BS5QGC9NFI51S9HCI47ULJG6JH.net. 86400 IN RRSIG NSEC3 8 2 86400 20140720045242 \
> 20140713034242 28829 net. ofaElVWkIRiDy4pig1jkaDSzPquUyCa4r42dyX/4XS9Iat+Yq2Dj/ZnB \
> JDPPzML9nyrvUNEVnGNlMH9gTIjcI0S+8uswp2JYkSj0Ehy2lBD8l4ih \
> rC50D6ipg5EjamyC+CwY2PfFbwWF3oU9LLoo2ETGVDhD7JQ9/fH7hbNT 0Ms= \
> AS5B4OTLCDJL1A0LTE25I08AP8R6R3GM.net. 86400 IN NSEC3 1 1 0 - \
> AS637D1KGJ6QJLHQN5SR8DM905KVGFG9 NS DS RRSIG AS5B4OTLCDJL1A0LTE25I08AP8R6R3GM.net. \
> 86400 IN RRSIG NSEC3 8 2 86400 20140721045414 20140714034414 28829 net. \
> dJjhB9d0dnxHccfe/WeTAnt46aWqoOgLPREUWyWK2f5ExoZye7EfhPKt \
> O/XMBS2OdA7R3Hq2vNFsqqLYI/5DdPZ+r/Q4q7Z6//KCq3tx6Q5FHagd \
> Hg1yDgFCWg9kUXqQCqk/6dEvEGxCz6IIYCPlK05iUVUPt8jEI0KlodPI e7Q= ;; Received 605 bytes \
> from 192.12.94.30#53(e.gtld-servers.net) in 243 ms 
> smtp.telefonica.net.    300     IN      A       86.109.99.70
> telefonica.net.         300     IN      NS      marianela.tsm.es.
> telefonica.net.         300     IN      NS      artemis.ttd.net.
> ;; Received 152 bytes from 213.0.184.69#53(artemis.ttd.net) in 55 ms
> 
> cer@Telcontar:~> 




It takes about five seconds... I tried 2 or three times, and every time
it tries a different route, but starting at the root servers. This
command does not appear to cache the answer. "host -v ..." does.


> > In fact, that's one of the addresses that nags me, because when I want
> > to send an email during a busy time (full pipe), they fail simply
> > because my postfix can not verify my own email address. Even if I did
> > send an email a while before, it doesn't remember the address. And it
> > is bind, no memory restraints. Not the router.
> 
> The first cache is in nscd, then bind, then uplink name-servers. 

Yep.


> > I know they are different; but the current problem, which is simply
> > getting queries done, is basically the same: the router performance
> > when the ADSL pipe is full.
> 
> It is an interesting issue, definitely - even if it may not be worth
> pursuing. 
> 
> > Ok, but none of that benefits me at present. The basic problem is that
> > my router does not do QoS, and does not prioritize DNS packets. So
> > when the pipe is full, they don't get out, or in, simple as that...
> 
> Just out of curiosity, have you tried assigning a QoS class to port 53
> (on the originating machine) ?  It is easily done with iptables. 

No, I haven't. I would have to study how to do it.
But it would only benefit one machine, not the rest in the house. If it
works I could apply the same thing to all Linus computers, but not to
the "gadgets".


By the way, in the bandwith adjustment on my router, which I posted
before, I have reserved a minimal bandwidth to to my local machines to
connect to outside on port 53. However, the router itself is excluded
from the list... the configuration form rejects it.

-- 
Cheers / Saludos,

		Carlos E. R.
		(from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)


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